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I don't know who you think you are but I have 2 children.  They are both grown and have children of their own.  I spanked the oldest and she is a loving, sweet, careing, christian adult and has never been in any trouble.  She has a job and is a responsible adult.  On the other hand the younger child was not spanked that much and she is a rude, uncareing, not responsible, thinks that everyone should bow down to her and kiss her feet.  I have been around children that has not been spanked or displelen and thy are rude, uncareing, unresponsible, and does not care about other people property, and end up in jail.  I do not have any respect for any of the doctors , or people that think that they can tell other people how to raise their children.  I am a better person because my parents cared enough to take the time to spank me on the butt.  I love them more for careing that much for me and being there for me at all times.   Mabey your parents did not care that much for you.. I have a good job and a retirement.  So does my oldest child. 

I'm not sure which post you are referring to, but I completely disagree with you. I am an upstanding citizen, caring, polite and responsible. I was never spanked by my parents (I was, however, spanked once by a babysitter who was promptly fired by my parents. My offence was asking for a glass of water when I was supposed to be asleep.)

There are plenty of ways to discipline without resorting to physical punishment. Time outs, restrictions etc., work wonders with my kids and to be perfectly frank, I was far more impacted by the times when I was put on restriction or had something special taken away from me than I would ever have been getting swatted on the behind.

Hitting/spanking really evokes a Pavlov's dog response in young children, in the short run, they do as they are told. In the long run, they will either be afraid of their parents or resent them. You also face the additional problem that your child will be physical in resolving his or her own problems. This is not a lesson you want kids to learn -- that hitting solves problems.

I remember vividly the threat of being spanked growing up. The trick to making a spanking effective is to use it a punishment of last resort and not of frustration. I have seen a lot of parents just lose it and haul off and belt a kid.

Those idiots deserve to be shot (just my mild opinion). I try never to spank at my frustration times, and usually only when it is extremely serious. Smart mouthing, not cleaning up a room, not making are NOT serious and timeouts get results. However, when your kids do not understand something is serious (had one throw a baseball at another while he was on a bicycle) then sometimes physical punishment is called for.

As I go older, I finally asked my Dad how many spankings I got, and he laughed and said "just the first one!"

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Sometimes hitting will solve a problem... Example - my daughter goes through an awful kicking phase...She kicks me in the stomach, I repremand, does it again, time out, does it again and again and again. I take her foot and slap it pretty hard - She has NEVER kicked me again. It's all about when you do it, how you do it and why you do it.  "My offence was asking for a glass of water when I was supposed to be asleep.)" < Your babysitter deserved to be fired becuse that is absolutly ridiculos. It's important to save a spanking or slap for something important. But you also need to know what works for your family. If you don't want/need to spank don't, but it's wrong to say we are wrong for doing it.

My mother spanked me and my brother and I learned from it and I can safely say that if I got spanked I deserved it and I never repeated the act.

 

Anonymous:

It's all about when you do it, how you do it and why you do it...It's important to save a spanking or slap for something important. But you also need to know what works for your family. If you don't want/need to spank don't, but it's wrong to say we are wrong for doing it.

My mother spanked me and my brother and I learned from it and I can safely say that if I got spanked I deserved it and I never repeated the act.

The way you describe spanking certainly sounds like it is done in a loving and caring way. (Though I still think there are other ways to handle that type of situation, but that's just my opinion.)

However, my comments were directed at the original poster who claimed that children who are spanked are upstanding citizens and those who are not spanked are selfish and just generally bad. I think you are taking my comments out of context.

Certainly, everyone has the right to make decisions that work best for their families, but to wholesale state that spanking is OK, is not a good idea.

Spanking, again only in my opionion, opens up too many issues. I don't every want my child to think I'm a hypocrite. When I tell my child that hitting, slapping, biting and other forms of physicalness is wrong, I think it would be wrong of me to turn around and hit as a way to drive home my point. I believe that children learn by example, I teach my child to be respectful of others and that means I must be respectful toward him.

Again, just my opinion. There are other opinions out there, but since this is a forum for dialogue, I just thought I'd throw it out there.

 

It's too bad you decided to fake a causal relationship between spanking and good behavior and not-spanking and bad behavior.  The two are likely unrelated. As well, it is too bad you have, in effect, a favorite child...perhaps this is why the second one acts in a manner you deem "unresponsible" [sic] and "rude."

To those who say, "I was spanked and I turned out just fine."  I say:  No you did not.  You turned into a person who thinks  it is OK to be physically violent against a small child. Think about it.