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  • 02-25-2007 2:51 AM

    • Peter
    • Joined on 12-13-2006
    • Washington, D.C.

    David Brooks Takes On Babble

    New York Times

    February 25, 2007

    Mosh Pit Meets Sandbox

    By David Brooks

    Can we please get over the hipster parent moment? Can we please see the end of those Park Slope alternative Stepford Moms in their black-on-black maternity tunics who turn their babies into fashion-forward, anticorporate indie-infants in order to stay one step ahead of the cool police?

    Can we stop hearing about downtown parents who dress their babies in black skull slippers, Punky Monkey T-shirts and camo toddler ponchos until the little ones end up looking like sad-parody club clones of mom and dad? Can we finally stop reading about the musical Antoinettes who would get the vapors if their tykes were caught listening to Disney tunes, and who instead force-feed Brian Eno, Radiohead and Sufjan Stevens into their little babies’ iPods?

    I mean, don’t today’s much-discussed hipster parents notice that their claims to rebellious individuality are undercut by the fact that they are fascistically turning their children into miniature reproductions of their hipper-than-thou selves? Don’t they observe that with their inevitable hummus snacks, their pastel-free wardrobes, their unearned sense of superiority and their abusively pretentious children’s names like Anouschka and Elijah, they are displaying a degree of conformity that makes your average suburban cul-de-sac look like Renaissance Florence?

    Enough already. The hipster parent trend has been going on too long and it’s got to stop. It’s been nearly three years since reporters for sociologically attuned publications like The New York Observer began noticing oversophisticated infants in “Anarchy in the Pre-K” shirts. Since then, the trend has exhausted its life cycle.

    A witty essay by Adam Sternbergh announced the phenomenon in an April 2006 New York magazine. Sternbergh described 40-year-old men and women with $200 bedhead haircuts and $600 messenger bags, who “look, talk, act and dress like people who are 22 years old,” and dress their infants as if they’re 16. He called these pseudo-adults “Grups,” observing that they smashed any remaining semblance of a generation gap.

    He noticed that the music of the parental generation sounds exactly like the music of the kids’ generation. They have the same rock star fashion sense, and share the same taste for distressed denim. He found a music video director, Adam Levite, who had a guitar collection propped up in his TriBeCa loft, and then similar miniature versions of the same guitars for his 6-year-old son, Asa.

    Then came the hipster parents’ own online magazine, Babble.com.

    Babble is a normal parental advice magazine submerged under geological layers of attitudinizing. There are articles about products from the alternative industrial complex (early ’60s retro baby food organizers). There’s a blog from a rock star mom (it’s lonely on the road). There’s a column by L.A.’s Rebecca Woolf, a sort of Silver Lake Erma Bombeck. (“Who says becoming a mom means succumbing to laser tattoo removal and moving to the suburbs?”)

    On top of that there’s been a flourishing of the movement’s official gathering site — the message board complex UrbanBaby.com. Here, highly educated parents trade tips about the toxic dangers of aluminum foil. Stay-at-home Martyr Mommies trade gibes with their working mom frenemies. High-achieving types try to restrain their judgmental, perfectionist tendencies with self-mockery: “I horrified myself the other day when I found myself being surprised that Angelina [Jolie] would let Zahara eat Ms. Vickie’s chips. Shoot me before I turn into a sanctimommy!”

    Finally, in a sign that the hip parenting thing has jumped the shark, the movement got its own book, the indescribably dull “Alternadad,” about a self-described whiny narcissist who tries not to let his son’s birth get in the way of his rock festival lifestyle. Surely a trend has hit absurdity when you have a book in which the most memorable moment comes when the writer succumbs to the corporate temptations of Toys “R” Us.

    Let me be clear: I’m not against the indie/alternative lifestyle. There is nothing more reassuringly traditionalist than the counterculture. For 30 years, the music, the fashions, the poses and the urban weeklies have all been the same. Everything in this society changes except nonconformity.

    What I object to is people who make their children ludicrous. Innocent infants should not be compelled to sport “My Mom’s Blog Is Better Than Your Mom’s Blog” infant wear. They should not be turned into deceptive edginess badges by parents who refuse to face that their days of chaotic, unscheduled moshing are over.

    For God’s sake, let’s respect the dignity of youth.

  • 02-25-2007 8:50 AM In reply to

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    This article is the reason I discovered babble. Made me put down my pipe and slippers, become young again and join you guys.. nice to be here and thanks David Brooks.
  • 02-25-2007 9:04 PM In reply to

    • Rufus
    • Joined on 12-13-2006
    • New York

    Re: David Brooks Takes On Babble

    Thank you David Brooks for delivering rebeldadboston!  We have had about 1,600 visitors click through from the new york times in the last several hours (this is fewer than popular blogs generate, incidentally, which says something about the evolution of media, but we appreciate it nonetheless).

    Steven Johnson had the best take on David's little grouse so far ... what Brooks misses is that a real demographic shift has taken place, and because of this shift there is a new generation of parents emerging who look different and act different than their predecessors.

    It may be true that there are any number of 40 year old parents walking around american cities whose clothes and music selections are not that different from those of 24 year olds (as the new york mag grups piece alleges). It does not follow, however, that they are therefore in denial about having aged, or about the responsibilities of parenthood. It does not follow that they want to lash their children to miniature chairs with ipod headphones and forcefeed them alt rock. Yes, they dress their kids in clothes that appeal to them, much as David Brooks no doubt buttons his kids into little coats and ties to the baleful croons of Rush Limbaugh.

    Here's the bad news David: we Gen X parents have not all grown up and decided to starch our shirts, barricade ourselves in the burbs, and vote Republican. And yes, our kids look something like we do -- much as every other toddler on the planet looks like his or her parents -- and they probably will until they are old enough to buy their own seersucker suit and white leather shoes just to piss us off.

    It must be scary, David, to see phalanxes of pint sized liberals-in-the-making growing up in diverse cities, with parents interested in exposing them to a broad range of cultural influences. But don't be scared -- despite our best efforts they might end up narrowminded and Brooks-Brothers-clad, just as your children might just develop good taste in music.

  • 02-26-2007 2:04 AM In reply to

    • Peter
    • Joined on 12-13-2006
    • Washington, D.C.

    Re: David Brooks Takes On Babble

    I wrote about the Brooks piece in my blog today...

     

    Et tu, Brooks?

    David Brooks, in his Sunday column in the New York Times, is the latest writer to go after hipster parents. As I've said before, I'm not sure exactly what a "hipster parent" is -- I don't know what "hipster" means, and I still only have a general conception of "parent" -- but it seems, by the company I keep and the things I do with the Lads, that I am one.

    I am actually a Brooks fan, and I've taken flak for that from friends, but I'm not sure why the "hipster parent moment," as he calls it, bugs him so much. Are hipster parents really so much more insufferable than Brooks's beloved BoBos? (I think I'm also one of those.)

    Farrar and I were discussing the media's recent obsession with hip 'rents, and neither one of us gets it. Brooks goes after those who "dress their babies in black skull slippers, Punky Monkey T-shirts and camo toddler ponchos" (for the record, I have no idea what any of these things are), but isn't that just a matter of taste? Parents always dress their children according to their own sense of style. For some, that's a pink bonnet; for others, a tiny Ramones T-shirt. What's the big whoop?

    If part of the "hipster parent" mood is a sense of "hipper than thou" -- that by virtue of personal taste and choices, one feels he or she is a better parent than those with different tastes -- than I agree it's a bad thing. But as someone who hangs with the hip online and in real life, I have to say this has been my experience with exactly no one.

  • 02-26-2007 9:20 AM In reply to

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    I'm a little irritated about the hipster parenting bashing. I'm an urban parent. I listen to my ipod, wear funky t-shirts and jeans. I love retro sneakers -- because they look cool and remind me of when I was a kid. But that doesn't mean that I don't take raising my child seriously.

    In defense of hipster parents, as a whole we are generally the best read parents on the block. We do our research (a nod to all the great info available on the web) and we make educated decisions on raising our kids. Hipster parents are the first to taut ecologically friendly baby stuff (like cloth diapers or gdiapers or alternative disposables). We are the first to stress the importance of organic foods for our little ones. Yeah, we might be a little older than the generation of parents before us, but that just means we are a little bit more financial sound and have more disposable income.

    Sure we spend more time, money and effort in how we dress our kids. Kids clothes are cuter now than when I was a baby and though I'm sure I can find something that is appropriately baby-ish, why would I when my son likes shirts that have snowboarders or monster trucks on them.

    OK. Rant over. Continue to discuss.

  • 02-28-2007 12:26 AM In reply to

    • squawks
    • Joined on 01-30-2007
    • boston, ma

    Re: David Brooks Takes On Babble

    You know what bums me out even more than the hipster-parent bashing? The weird, defensive counter-bashing it seems to provoke here on Babble. I've seen broad swings taken at suburbanites, skinny people, SUV and minivan drivers, moms who cook / sew / scrapbook / knit, etc. etc. ad nauseum. No cliche of uncool has been left unturned.

    Not that any of this describes me (as much as I wish some of it did), and lots of it is just wrong (how hip is knitting right now? hello?). But do we "new urban parents" really need to rail against the imaginary characteristics of some invisible enemy in this non-conflict? It makes the so-called hipster parents look as superficial and narrow-minded as the people who are trash-talking them.



     

  • 02-28-2007 1:41 PM In reply to

    • jessma
    • Joined on 02-28-2007
    • Quincy, MA

    Re: David Brooks Takes On Babble

    Well, I have to say that I'm thrilled that he wrote that editorial, because it's also how I wound up here. I'm so thrilled to finally find an online community that resembles me in some way. I've felt so isolated on so many of the other boards and sites out there. Great job with this one - I'm thrilled to be here!
    "If you worried about falling off the bike, you'd never get on it" - Lance Armstrong

    "The problem with people who have no vices is that generally you can be pretty sure they're going to have some pretty annoying virtues." - Elizabeth Taylor
  • 03-01-2007 1:47 PM In reply to

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    I drive an SUV, I cook and I knit. I'm doomed to unhipdom.

     

    Karen

  • 03-01-2007 2:30 PM In reply to

    • squawks
    • Joined on 01-30-2007
    • boston, ma

    Re: David Brooks Takes On Babble

    For heaven's sake, just don't start scrapbooking.
  • 03-02-2007 7:37 AM In reply to

    • Peter
    • Joined on 12-13-2006
    • Washington, D.C.

    Re: David Brooks Takes On Babble

    Karen :

    I drive an SUV, I cook and I knit. I'm doomed to unhipdom.

    I own and wear cardigan sweaters. 

  • 03-02-2007 1:20 PM In reply to

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    I'm yet another person who found my way here thanks to the David Brooks brohaha. And since my blog masthead has a picture of my baby wearing a "My Mom's Blog is Better than Your Mom's Blog" t-shirt, of course I had to check you guys out, as well as blog about his piece myself: http://lizawashere.com/2007/02/28/hipster-babies/

    I love what I've read so far, but I was surprised and disappointed in one thing. During the registration process, I was asked if I was married, single, or divorced. I'm a dyke, and I don't live in Massachusetts, but my partner and I are raising our son together. Under the law, I'm single, but certainly not in my mind, and not I suspect, in yours either.

    Given Nerve's great inclusive reputation, I was actually startled not to see "partner" or "domestic partner" as an option. It was irritating when BabyTalk magazine decreed lesbian moms to be "unmarried"  (http://lesbianfamily.org/2007/02/18/married-moms-vs-unmarried-moms/) but not as surprising as finding myself rendered invisible here. 

    Liza
    Founder, LesbianFamily.org
    Personal Blog, LizaWasHere.com
  • 03-03-2007 1:19 PM In reply to

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    No shame in wearing cardigans - Kurt Cobain did.
    Strollerderby Contributor
    Founder/Managing Editor, DadCentric (www.dadcentric.com)
  • 03-08-2007 11:56 PM In reply to

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    ah oh,  I wear cardigans too! ... but still have a couple of peace sign/ dove necklaces in my jewelry box.  You know,...  I should start wearing them again. I'm sure my kids would be a  tad bit embarrassed if they knew!  And after all,  its always fun to mildly embarrass the children .  Oh and thanks Mr. Brooks for reminding me what I admire most about humans,  the ability to be unique and open minded
  • 04-16-2007 6:26 PM In reply to

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    The tweedy Brooks traffics in the romanticization of the hardworking, small-town, real America conservative who likes baked beans and cold beer and a good ball game.  Such a fellow is constantly being abused white wine drinking hipsters.  Well, I am from a very conservative, small town in eastern Washington state and have yet to encounter this noble beast, much less, jump to his/her defense.  I suspect it's been a long time since DB thought about child-rearing -- he's a bit long in the tooth.  He might be surprised at some of the balanced articles on breastfeeding and immunization that I have found here.  He might even agree with some of the points made in them.

    I wonder when DB's imagined homey hero would use the term 'Jump the shark'?


     

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