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They Say: Today's Kids are Rude, Here's Why

Posted by Madeline Holler

Here's the argument: today's kids, so coddled by parents who prize a sizable self-esteem above all else, are turning into rude, self-absorbed little jerks who not only don't take "no" for answer, they've never actually encountered the word.

Yes, that sounds about right.

A reporter on MSNBC writes that experts say kids these days are ruder than ever and that it's our fault, we Gen Xers, who were so benignly neglected that we now over-compensate as parents by co-sleeping and baby-wearing and opting out. And that we're so fixated on our children's well-being that we wind up teaching them that other people's feelings are less important than our own, that kids should first make sure they feel good, then (if ever) worry about others.

An expert:

“I see parents ferociously advocating for their children, responding with hostility to anyone they perceive as getting in the child's way — from a person whose dog snuffles inquiringly at a baby in a carriage, to a teacher or coach whom they perceive is slighting their child, to a poor, hapless doctor who cannot cure the common cold,” says [Dr. Philippa] Gordon, [a long-time pediatrician in Park Slope, Brooklyn, an urban New York neighborhood famous for its dense Gen-X parent population]. “There is a feeling that anything interfering with their kid's homeostasis, as they see it, is an inappropriate behavior to be fended off sharply.”

Such parents might be surprised to learn how uncorrelated self-esteem and performance are.

But, another argues, we Gen Xers come by it honestly, since we, according to another expert, are some of the most neglected kids in history. We're apparently healing our wounds through our intensive parenting. Our kids will have what we didn't: demonstrated love and protection.

Another expert lets us off the hook, though. She says that today's culture celebrates negative behaviors and goes on to finger American Idol judges and Bratz dolls as examples of mainstream meanness.

I would have to agree that parents these days can be a little screwed up when it comes to their kids. For example, why didn't the mother whose school-aged boy was chasing other kids with poop on a stick tell him to stop and remind him that poop-on-a-stick is disgusting? I also didn't appreciate the mom who brought her son over and said "he loves to explore," when my husband and I stood stunned that the little explorer was back in our bedroom going through the closet. Huh?

But I'm sure some mom has included me in the "rude kids" pile. I'm verrrrry passive when it comes to kids under 2 years old sharing toys. I know that, developmentally, sharing makes no sense to them. So I tend to tell my under-twos to share, watch them not share, and then get the other kid something else to play with and roll my eyes at said other kid's parent, hoping she'll understand. She usually does. 

Also, my stubborn, hair-trigger four-year-old gets so many passes, not because I worry about the fragility of her self-esteem, but because I worry about the fragility of my last nerve. But we don't tolerate kicking seats on airplanes (unless the person in front has leaned back all the way ... that passenger is on his own), or snarky talk to grown-ups. We do table manners. We play to win at Old Maid. We also expect the kids to listen to their teachers and other parents.

We'd like our kids to have a healthy self-esteem, but we're not interested in narcissistic little tyrants. And I say this as a very benignly neglected, latch-key GenXer parent. 

Do you think kids these days are rude? (Not yours, of course!) Do you blame culture at all or are parents too permissive? Too focused on their spirited little genius?

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Comments

 

Treespeed said:

Gen x'ers most neglected kids in history? As if. Yeah I guess all those kids who spent their childhoods working in factories and coal mines were just being coddled. More like the next in line after the boomers in their self absorption, we just didn't have youtube, but now we have blogs to make up for it.

Every generation imagines that their youth are the worst ever and yet somehow here we all are carrying on.

May 6, 2009 4:23 PM
 

Alice said:

I agree with Treespeed.  That is baloney.  My parents were a lot more involved with me than their parents were with them.  Honestly, I dont think it realy helped my generation at all though.  I think it made us more fearful of striking out on our own ( aged 40 still lives with mom sound familiar) and too eager for approval from others.  The children of today are big 2 year olds with no boundaries, still thinking they are the center of the universe with no coping skills.  

May 6, 2009 5:37 PM
 

Bean's mom said:

This is all BS.  People always like to say that the current generation is worse than the ones before it.  They said that in the 60s, the 70s, the 80s, the 90s, and now they are saying that again.  When I look back, however, I just see people screwed up in different ways. Men in my grandfather's generation were more emotionally aloof and sexist.  My grandmother was resentful of her role and passive-aggressive.  I was spanked and raised to be seen and not heard; although I am obedient, I am ridden with anxiety.

May 6, 2009 8:44 PM
 

boop said:

Kids today!

Seriously, this same article (and sentiment) is trotted out every year. Yawn.

May 7, 2009 12:12 AM
 

TeganFl said:

I'm not sure I agree with the other commenters. I, nor any of my peers, would have dared speak to adults the way children of this generation do. Seriously, it seems there is simply no fear in the kids of today. And I guess if you are assured that your parents will always take your side, no matter the evidence, there isn't anything of which to be afraid. Not of teachers, principals, neighboors, or law enforcement.

May 7, 2009 3:31 AM
 

Manjari said:

I agree with Treespeed. I recently read Huck's Raft by Steven Mintz. We were NOT some of the most neglected kids in history.

May 7, 2009 10:38 AM
 

Twintown said:

Every time I hear this argument, I remember this quote:

"The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties

at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.

ATTRIBUTION: Attributed to SOCRATES by Plato, according to William L.

Patty and Louise S. Johnson, Personality and Adjustment, p. 277

(1953)."

This has been said of youth for centuries.  There is clearly some merit to the fact that we have created a culture of narcissistic self-absorption here in America, but honestly I encounter just as many rude, self-centered adults as I do teens.  So I'm not surprised when I meet their rude, self-centered children.  It's not always a generational problem!

May 7, 2009 12:19 PM
 

JJ said:

You know who can be rude?  Boomers and their parents.  

Here's a list of things I encounter ALL the time when hanging out with those generations. (Of course not all the members, but it's common enough)

- utter rudeness to waitstaff and service people.  I wonder how many times my food has been spit in?

- Invasive questions about very personal matters.

- worrying more about their thank you note than the person who recieved the gift.  

- endless bitter and shallow gossip

- divorced boomer men who publically insult and belittle their ex wives in front of their children and their ex's friends.  

I could go on....  I think that beats any 5 year old having a temper tantrum or not saying "thank you".  

May 7, 2009 12:40 PM
 

JRC said:

I think that what one of the above posters said is true: this isn't necessarily a generational thing. Selfish people raise selfish kids. I know some self absorbed people who are doing a bang up job raising some outrageously rude little people.

May 7, 2009 2:38 PM
 

BH said:

I agree with the original post!  Except for the fact that we where neglected as kids.

Just because previous generations have said the up and coming one is worse, doesn't mean we give in.  We must all teach our children to respect one another and authority.  The best thing you can teach your children is put the needs of others before themselves.  Putting the needs of other first removes the "me first" types of problems the original post mentioned.  

Those who wait for the world to please them will always be disappointed!  Teach your children to help others and they will be happy for life!  They will grow up to be the polite, considerate, respectful children we all want them to be.  They won't think the world owes them like we see so many people acting.

I know it is easier said than done with naturally born shelf centered people - but that is our goal for our son.  We will see how he does as time goes on.

May 12, 2009 1:13 PM
 

cheri said:

What planet are you guys from?  Jesus.  Kids today ARE FREAKING RUDE.  There is no way I would have gotten away with the disrespect towards adults that kids are allowed to show today.  Yeah, each generation says that of the young'ens, but that does not mean it is true.  Sexuality, violence, cursing, and rudeness may have been escalating for generations, but that just means that kids today are ruder than kids of old.  Good observations, Madeline.

May 15, 2009 11:42 PM

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