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Making More Marriages Versus "Making Marriage Matter Less"

Posted by Shannon LC Cate

A recent report tells us that half of all new babies born in Scotland last year were born to unmarried parents. And those statistics are indicative of a growing trend in many places of families that do not meet the imaginary norm of two opposite-sex married parents and their biological children.

Oddly enough, this lesbian mom thought first of all those Scottish babies when I heard all the good news about legal marriage expanding in the past two weeks.  My partner and I can now have our Canadian marriage recognized in Sweden, Iowa and Vermont and depending on the U.S. Congress's response to the city's decision, the District of Columbia.  Add these to a growing list that includes Spain, Belgium, Massachusetts, New York and of course, Canada.

Marriage is indeed a handy thing for us to have.  It protects us in the event of death or accident, making sure we can care for each other in extremity and inherit from each other easily.  It protects the children that come into our family while we are married, making sure we are both recognized as their parents, and thus responsible for them.  But marriage isn't the only way to obtain those kinds of benefits.  And same-sex marriage does nothing at all for children born to unmarried parents, whatever their gender configuration.

There are many reasons families other than the Leave it to Beaver model need recognition, care and protection from the government, but even exclusively focusing on children's needs quickly alerts us to the many ways in which marriage is not the answer to these needs.

No, a child with a de facto, but nonlegal parent can't be covered by that parent's employer-based health insurance.  But even when that de facto parent becomes a legal one by caveat of a marriage to the first parent or through second-parent adoption (when available) the child will remain uninsured if that parent has no coverage herself, as many don't.

Marriage allows its members to visit each other in the hospital in emergencies, but same-sex marriage doesn't help the mother and father, unmarried to each other in such emergencies.

Marriage means any child born into the family of a married couple is automatically the legal child of both.  This doesn't help live-in, unmarried partners of any sex who raise each other's children.

Marriage offers special rights to an ever decreasing percentage of the population and the children born to that group.  But rather than expanding who can obtain these special rights, the government should be designing family law to protect all families in their ever-increasing variety.

Some great suggestions for doing that, based on models from countries that do it better, as well as her own brilliant legal thinking, can be found in Nancy Polikoff's book, Beyond (Straight and Gay) Marriage. Polikoff's central idea is that we should strive to make marriage "matter less" to the well being of families, allowing it without discrimination, but only as a personal, spiritual and symbolic ritual that is not required to protect and defend families and their dependents (whether those dependents are children or dependent adults).

Universal health coverage, court arbitration for non-martial family break ups, parenting rights for all of a child's acting parents, and other reforms would go much further and protect many more people than merely extending marriage rights and privileges.  Furthermore, same-sex marriage, under Polikoff's plans would cease to be a cultural or political dividing force.  Why?  Because families could get what they needed without "marriage" leaving marriage itself to be defined in whatever way legally toothless groups wanted to define it.  If a certain church wanted to restrict marriage to women and men, it could (as all churches can now, by the way) and if another wanted to marry groups of more than two people in a spiritually meaningful ritual, it could do that as well.  But access or lack of it to any of these ceremonies would have no impact on the rights of any given family.

Polikoff's ideas are simple, common sense ones and I am glad to see them in print. I hope I'll see them in law someday.  I hope it more than I hope for gay marriage, however convenient that would be for my particular family.

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JeanneSager said:

I agree with a lot of what you say Shannon - interestingly my closest gay friend refuses to get married in another state.

Not because he and his partner aren't committed to one another, but because he doesn't want to run off and get married just for that paper . . . he wants to wait until it becomes legal in his state (Pennsylvania), so they can get married like two regular people with their friends and family around. I'm pro-marriage in the sense that I am married (and pretty happily), but marriage doesn't necessarily equal committed anymore than NOT being married equals not committed.

April 8, 2009 1:06 PM
 

someones mom said:

As a fan of marriage for everyone who wants to be married, Jeanne, why not suggest a personally meaningful wedding in PA, with friends and family around, preceded by a quick trip to Boston for the legal stuff? The public commitment before those you love is what matters, and the legal paperwork can be just that- the same as the wills, prenuptial agreements, and any other documents that will need to be created, filed, and amended. I did something similar- before my then-fiance got deployed, we ran down to City Hall and had a civil marriage so that if something happened to him, I could have the access needed to find out what was going on. When he returned, we had a lovely wedding with friends and family- and that was our real wedding, not that rushed encounter with bureaucracy.

I suppose the only concern for providing greater protection to families where the parents are not married would be establishing certain boundaries. Three dates with a single mom should not entitle you to visitation rights with her kid, so there should be a line somewhere.

April 8, 2009 3:38 PM
 

Shannon LC Cate said:

Hi someone's mom,

I had an extralegal, personally meaningful marriage myself.  But you can't hop up to Boston and marry if you live in a state that doesn't recognize it, as Mass. doesn't allow anyone to marry whose home state wouldn't allow the same.  And the rights of any out of state marriage for a same-sex couple do not apply anywhere except in states willing to recognize such marraiges and PA isn't one of them.  So Jeanne's friend, who wants both the rights and the ceremony is simply out of luck.  The Defense of Marriage Act means that no matter what one state allows, other states do not have to recognize the existence of a same-sex marraige.  So it isn't like the benefits you are talking about where you went ahead with a civil ceremony to protect your relationship while your husband was deployed.

Make sense?

As for boundaries, the laws Polikoff uses as examples in her book usually include a cohabitation limit of 6 months to a year before the other party has any rights or responsibilities.

April 8, 2009 3:54 PM
 

Courtney said:

I have to say, I have no problem with people who have the option to marry and choose not to not having all the protections of marriage.  These days, marriage can really be what you make it, and doesn't have to look like "Leave it to Beaver."   My in-laws were big hippies when they got married, and actually lost friends because of their decision to "register with the man," but they wanted all the legal protections that went along with marriage.  If you're a committed couple, and plan to raise kids together, there really is no real reason not to get married.  Divorce these days is easy and non-stigmatizing, and extending the rights and responsibilities of marriage to non-married couples will just make breaking up more like getting divorced.  I know many married couples (of all sexual orientations) who have non-traditional marriages and marriage roles.  None of them wanted the stereotypical '50's marriage, but all of them wanted the convenience and comfort that goes along with legal marriage.  

I agree that getting marriage doesn't equal commitment.  What marriage does equal, however, is a set of legal rights and responsibilities.  If you want them, get the paper.  If you don't, then you don't, and making those rights and responsibilities separate from marriage may end up putting a lot of non-married couples in a situation they didn't sign up for and make dating, even casual dating, much more complicated.

April 8, 2009 4:03 PM
 

Courtney said:

I have to say, I have no problem with people who have the option to marry and choose not to not having all the protections of marriage.  These days, marriage can really be what you make it, and doesn't have to look like "Leave it to Beaver."   My in-laws were big hippies when they got married, and actually lost friends because of their decision to "register with the man," but they wanted all the legal protections that went along with marriage.  If you're a committed couple, and plan to raise kids together, there really is no real reason not to get married.  Divorce these days is easy and non-stigmatizing, and extending the rights and responsibilities of marriage to non-married couples will just make breaking up more like getting divorced.  I know many married couples (of all sexual orientations) who have non-traditional marriages and marriage roles.  None of them wanted the stereotypical '50's marriage, but all of them wanted the convenience and comfort that goes along with legal marriage.  

I agree that getting marriage doesn't equal commitment.  What marriage does equal, however, is a set of legal rights and responsibilities.  If you want them, get the paper.  If you don't, then you don't, and making those rights and responsibilities separate from marriage may end up putting a lot of non-married couples in a situation they didn't sign up for and make dating, even casual dating, much more complicated.

April 8, 2009 4:05 PM
 

someones mom said:

I forgot about the lack of recognition in PA, but MA no longer prohibits couples from out of state to marry- that was the case, briefly, though. I was living near Boston at the time, so I followed the issue. Good riddance to Mitt Romney.

April 8, 2009 4:17 PM
 

Shannon LC Cate said:

All I can say, Courtney, is that these kinds of laws are working fine in an awful lot of countries besides the U.S. now.  People should not have to marry to have their dependents protected.  That is: those dependents should not be out of luck if their providers don't happen to be married--for whatever reason.

The laws Polikoff looks at would protect families in which the primary members are not in romantic-type relationships--such as a father and daughter, a brother and sister, etc.  Expanding marriage to include same-sex couples wouldn't help such families as changing family protection laws would.

April 8, 2009 4:43 PM
 

km said:

Well, Courtney, what about the fact that I just plain do not want to be married?  That, for me, is a real enough reason to not be married.  My boyfriend and I have been together longer than some marriages, and we have three children together, but I have no desire to be married.  

But does my lack of desire to be married mean my boyfriend shouldn't have all the same rights as a married father?  No, absolutely not.  He is their dad.

Fortunately for us, we are a heterosexual couple (I'm not saying that being in a homosexual relationship is unfortunate, but I do realize heterosexual couples have it a little easier), and my husband is the legally-recognized, biological father of our children, which allows them to be covered under his health insurance.  We have also taken steps to make certain our wishes will be met should one (or both) of us die--we each have an individual will, and we have a joint will.  We also had a lawyer draw-up a "Right to Visitation" document, which he said was not legally binding, but it outlines our wishes for visitation in the hospital in cases where only immediate family may be allowed to visit.  (Hopefully we'll never have to find out if the document will work.)

I shouldn't have to get married if I don't want to.  And I shouldn't have to jump through hoops and incur added expenses just to protect the rights of my un-husband and myself in regards to our children.

April 8, 2009 9:02 PM
 

gpgirl said:

km, can I ask a question? Why don't you want to get married? I know I sound like a throwback for asking such a question, but  all the legalities that non-married people have to go through to get similar rights to married people are astounding. It would seem easier to just go to city hall and get married. I totally understand why someone would not want a big wedding, but if you are going to all the legal paperwork anyway, why not make it easier on yourself? Like you said, you took the time out to have a lawyer draw up a "Right to Visitation" document, which you are not even sure will be valid. I'm sure it would have taken less time and effort to get married (which would have legally assured your right to visitation) than to draw up this document alone, never mind all the other documents to protect yourselves.

I am still appalled that we do not allow same-sex couples to marry. When Prop 8 passed here in California, I thought it was so awful. I would push endlessly for same-sex couples to have the right to marry. However, when you have the right, and you are making the commitment, I'm not sure what it is about marriage itself that turns people off.

I'm really not being snarky. This is an issue that I am just curious about.

April 8, 2009 10:26 PM
 

Shannon LC Cate said:

You know, folks, states all have different marriage and divorce laws.  Some people may not want to agree to all that is in them.  It isn't like the right to visit each other in the hospital is all you get when you marry.

Marriage connotes a lot more than these rights.  Which is why so many people are so up in arms about same-sex marriage and which is why marriage and these rights ought to be entirely separate things.  That would also allow someone to choose a person not eligible for marriage (a parent, a sibling, a grandparent, etc.) to share an inheritance right, a next-of-kin relationship, etc. in circumstances that called for that.

April 8, 2009 10:33 PM
 

gpgirl said:

Shannon, can you give an example of something that one gets when one marries that they may not want to sign up for?

In briefly reading Nancy Polikoff's blog, it seems like she is not against the idea of marriage, but that she wants to call it something else, like civil partnership, because of all the baggage marriage carries. I think this would be a good idea. I think it is more the idea of marriage that people don't like more than what it actually is, which is a legal contract. (Again, unless I am missing something that is a part of this contract which someone would not want.)

I do see what you are saying about people not eligible for marriage getting certain rights. I need to read her site more to see what other countries do in these situation.

April 8, 2009 10:59 PM
 

Shannon LC Cate said:

Really, her book is a better source on this stuff.  One example she gives is a woman who wants her elderly father to live with her so she can care for him, but the public housing she lives in will consider it overcrowding, whereas if he spouse were to move in, this would not be overcrowding.  That's an example of a couple who couldn't marry under any circumstances, who need legal protection for their relationship.  Polikoff offers recommendations for taking the romantic relationship as a basis for special rights completely off the table.  She doesn't just want to change the name from marriage to something else.

As for things you may not want a super easy example is when a retired couple want to be together in a partnered, romantic way, but do not want each other to interfere with the inheritance rights of their children from previous relationships.  Other examples, though, include laws that were originally based on gender bias that someone might not want to be part of on principal.  It would depend on how the marriage/divorce law works in any given jurisdiction.  Some have community property, some do not.  So you might want to maintain ownership in something while marriage would take it away.

Polikoff goes into great detail in this stuff in the book.  It's a quick and interesting read that is quite easy to follow.  I'd highly recommend it.

April 9, 2009 9:15 AM
 

patricia said:

gpgirl, I can think of one (relatively minor) example, but it's off the top of my head.  In North Carolina, a married couple has to be seaparated, but remain married, for a year before they can get divorced, and there are all kinds of rules about what constitutes separation.  Like I said, pretty minor, but if you don't want that hassle, you won't want to be married in North Carolina.

April 9, 2009 9:18 AM
 

Courtney said:

I absolutely agree that no one should have to get married f they don't want to, and that everyone should have that right if they do.  All I was saying is that legally, marriage is just a bundle of rights and responsibilities.  If you want those rights and responsibilities, then you want marriage.  If you only want some and not others, there are other legal ways to get them.

Right now we have something of an opt-in system.  There are certain rights and responsibilities you get automatically for being biologically related, or for being a defacto parent (varying from state to state), but otherwise you have to sign up for those connections.  I'm just concerned about what will happen if we switch to an opt-out system, where people have to jump through hoops to avoid taking on those rights and responsibilities.  People choose not to marry in order to avoid becoming entangled in certain ways, or because they aren't ready yet.  If these rights and responsibilities are going to be extended to unmarried couples, the law will have to be very, very careful not to burden couples with responsibilities they don't want.

Or is what you're talking about still an opt-in system, but just a different sort of opt-in?  I don't really have an issue with that, especially if you concern is mostly for people who don't have any good options under the current system.

April 9, 2009 3:52 PM
 

ChiLaura said:

I think that marriage by the state should be abolished, to be replaced with civil partnerships that allow shared insurance, shared child responsibility, all that "marriage stuff". The state can cover all the legal stuff, and "marriage" should be turned over to churches. That way, gays can be "married" in any church that will allow them to be, if the "marriage" thing is so meaningful to them. No state intrusion on the church, no religious imposition on same-sex marriage. Is there any reason why this wouldn't work?

I don't condone same-sex marriage at all; I'm religious and conservative. However, people choose to live how they choose to live, and it makes me so sad for children who go thru terrible things, such as having no real legal protection when same-sex parents might divorce. Sadly, though, the "religious right" (blech) would probably throw a huge fit about something like this, which I find pretty sad too.

April 9, 2009 4:00 PM
 

Shannon LC Cate said:

Courtney, one thing Polikoff proposes is reforms to current opt-in systems, like national, computerized registries for things like durable powers of attorney so a couple of vacation has their rights to each other recognized in an emergency.  She mentions a survey that showed 100% of people asked know who'd they want making medical decisions (and less than 70% said it was a spouse) but of those, less than 20% had actually taken legal means to assure their preferences.

In an opt-out system, I don't think opting out would be all that hard.  If you had a list of presumptive decision makers, beginning with a live0in partner of some kind--registered or not-- and that partner declined to make decisions, you just go to the next person on the list.  It wouldn't require anything necessarily.  Child support, I suppose, would be another matter, but would require more proof that a person abdicating a responsibility had actually borne that responsibility in the past.

Working out the details would require time and effort, but would doubtless be easier and more acceptable to both left and right than just "same-sex marriage" and would leave us far better off than we are now.

ChiLaura--sounds good to me.  I am already married by my religious community.  I'd love to have the civil package to go with it.

April 9, 2009 4:13 PM
 

km said:

gpgirl:  A little late to the party, but in case you see this.

I just don't want to be married.  I'm not giving you a non-answer, and I'm not being snarky.  I could probably attribute this to not having a positive marriage role model growing up, but that's not really the truth, although it may be part of it.

For myself, though, I find the idea of marriage both antiquated and trap-like.  Not that my un-husband (who I usually just refer to as my husband) would expect me to be all Betty Homemaker and tell me what to do if we were married.  It's more this idea that I would be "trapped" by marriage through the government.  I like the idea that the relationship between DH and myself is only our relationship--I don't need or want to have it sanctified by the government.  I don't trust the government to declare food safe, why would I want it to have a hand in the most important relationship in my life?  

Plus, and probably more to the point, I am just a contrary person.  For as long as I can remember, I balk when I am told to do something, and to me, being married is just the government telling me how I should behave in my relationship.

Which is not to say that I think marriage should be eliminated.  Clearly, most people value and appreciate the security being married brings to a relationship.  I haven't fully explored my feelings on the subject, but I tend to think the government should not be involved in any relationships and should a couple (of whatever sexual orientation) wish to sanctify their relationship they can do so in a church or other private ceremony.

April 13, 2009 1:29 PM

About Shannon LC Cate

Shannon LC Cate, PhD is a lesbian housewife and work-from-home mother of two girls via domestic, open, transracial adoption. They are both under five and already too brilliant and beautiful for their own good. Shannon lives, writes and assembles tricycles in Chicago, Illinois.

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