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Girls' School, Boys' School: Does Single-Sex Education Work?

Posted by Kate Tuttle

In this case, it's girls' classroom, boys' classroom -- a public elementary school in the St. Louis area has been experimenting with single-sex education and so far both parents and pupils seem pleased. At the Carman Trails School boys and girls are offered the option of single-sex classrooms starting in the first grade -- the program, now two years old, extends to the third grade but it seems likely it will expand upward. 

According to an article about the school, the girls' classroom is filled with the sound of singing, while the boys' room features lots of shouting, standing up, and running around. Parents of boys say they are glad their sons are no longer described as being unable to concentrate, now that they aren't bound to what some feel are unrealistic behavioral expectations.  It's not mentioned whether parents of girls feel there's any advantage to how their daughters are being taught, but the usual point raised by advocates of single-sex education is that girls feel freer to express themselves in a classroom cleared of competitive male energy.

As the mother of a boy and a girl, I have mixed feelings about this. On the one hand, I gew up with two brothers and never felt that I was any less competitive or rambunctious than they were. On the other hand, I can see that at times each of my children might have benefited from at least some time spent in a single-sex environment. Certainly my daughter's summer camp, all girls, has been a perfect setting in which to learn leadership skills; my son is too young yet to know, but in a preschool classroom dominated by girls he is sometimes quickly blamed for any rough behavior, even if his female classmates are just as rough. As a feminist, I reject the essentialist point of view that says boys and girls are just born different, with distinct interests, temperaments, and physical and emotional needs. But I do see that girls and boys are socialized so differently, and have to each learn to exist in a world that expects different things from them, that this kind of classroom experience might make sense.

Single-sex education has long been a staple of Catholic and other private schools. These days it's reported that around 500 public schools are trying it out. What do you think? Would your son or daughter do better, learn more, reach his or her potential more easily, in a classroom filled with others of the same sex? Or does this kind of gender segregation harm kids, at the very least by reinforcing sexual stereotypes? 

 

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Twyla said:

I don't know that it would be harmful. My daughter is in 3rd grade. Her personality is pretty dramatic and she can easily get caught up in drama between girlfriends. She does so much better with the boys because they are a little more carefree.

I would totally go for it in my son's middle school though. All those hormones sure do get in the way of learning math and history. On the other hand, his school is a bit of training ground for the kids to learn about the other sex and what they like and don't like.

I'm torn but I think I lean towards leaving it how it is. All mixed up.

February 26, 2009 12:15 PM
 

Lara said:

I went to an all-girls high school and absolutely loved it.  My 6th, 7th, and 8th grade years were rough - I was in a class of very mean, clique-y kids.  When I got to high school, it was a relief not to have to worry about what the boys were thinking of my - I could concentrate on my friends and school.  I graduated with amazing friends and fantastic grades - two things I doubt I would have had if I were in a regular high school.  I know I wouldn't be the same confident person I am now if I had gone to a different school.  Now, I was the ugly duckling - I didn't come into my own until I was a sophomore, and I know that my looks and geekiness had everything to do with how I was treated in junior high.  When I finally bloomed, I didn't have to worry about sudden attention or how to deal with it, which was nice.  I also know stunningly beautiful girls who benefited greatly from the all-girls environment - without boys, they learned to depend on their personalities and intelligence rather than their looks, and they turned out much more well-rounded than they would have in a different environment.

Do I think it's necessary for grade-schoolers?  I don't think so, as much...I think you are still learning critical interaction lessons at that age.  I think maybe separating the match or science classes and leaving the rest co-ed might be a good solution - those classes where girls have a tendency to not do so well.  But then, shouldn't we also give the boys a chance and give them their own reading class, where THEY tend to not do so well?  It's tough....I think at that age they need to be co-ed but I can see the benefits of single-sex education too.  

February 26, 2009 12:31 PM
 

g8grl said:

I ended up in the dorms at college with about 5 women who went to all girls catholic schools.  They were the rowdiest, hardest drinking carousers I met in college.  Often we would come back to the dorms at 2 am and see them passed out in the hall.  I'm not saying this is true of all single sex high school girls, I'm just saying that this was what I observed.

February 26, 2009 1:21 PM
 

g8grl said:

on the other hand, all women colleges seem to put out some amazing women.  

February 26, 2009 1:23 PM
 

BlackOrchid said:

Absolutely believe that single-sex education is good for girls. I went to an all-girls school until 5th grade and absolutely loved it. Was in coed for middle school and high school - ech. Went back to all-girls for college and found my groove again.

When you are a girl in a coed situation and you're shy, you tend to get lost in the shadows. It's hard to step up. But with all-girls - we ALL had to step up. Who will be Student Body President? Who will be on the debate team, the basketball team? Who will be the smartest kid? The best sportsman?

In all those cases it HAS to be a girl. In coed situations, if you are a girl and happen to be the smartest - it's NOT a good thing. You hide it.

The other aspect I found was that as a socially-inept, geeky girl, I could more easily find friends - girls who were like me - when there were 20 girls to pick from rather than only 10. Frankly, in elementary school boys and girls don't tend to really be friends together.

February 26, 2009 1:36 PM
 

mindfulmom said:

I grew up going to the same school as my older brothers and loved it. Last year we decided to put our daughter in an all girls' private school and she loves it.

I don't think there is a right or a wrong here, we chose the school more for what they had to offer as a school - not necessarily because it was all girls. That said, there sure is alot of room for leadership in an all girls school.

Roz

www.echoage.com

February 26, 2009 2:15 PM
 

JeanneSager said:

Kate, like you I'm very mixed on this.

I was one of those girls who had a lot of male friends and only a handful of female friends in school - I simply tend to get along better with boys. I notice my daughter talks about the boys from nursery school more so than she does the girls (and at three, I really don't think it's because she has a crush on the boys).

Although I'm a fan of anything that puts the focus in a classroom on education and takes out the distractions, that allows kids to foster their own natural abilities, I also see a lot of benefits to coed classrooms. I think exposing kids to the opposite gender from an early age is as important as exposing them to different races, to kids with disabilities, etc. for the sake of fostering tolerance and learning to approach ideas in a manor other than the one that's instinctive.

That said, as a lot of the women who commented pointed out, going to an all girls or all boys school has proved beneficial for a lot of people. At the very least, it didn't hurt them.

The question is - how much does it help them?

February 26, 2009 2:37 PM
 

ChiLaura said:

I think that I would've benefited from an all-girls education. I think that I would've become much more of a leader. When I played with kids (boys and girls) in our neighborhood, I was bossy and pretty strong; when I went to kindergarten, my teacher's comment was, "She's a great kid, but so quiet!" My mom didn't think that she was talking about the right kid. I stayed like this throughout my school career. Maybe it WAS just the environment (20 kids, as opposed to the 10 in our neighborhood), rather than a mixed-sex class, but my personality totally changed. Even now, as an adult, I tend to be much more forceful with just women around and much quieter with a mixed group.

I am, in contrast to the post's author, fairly essentialist (at least as much as I believe in socialization) in my outlook on sex differences. I can't imagine either of my boys sitting tons in class; they would need the running and shouting.

February 26, 2009 4:05 PM
 

elohveeee12 said:

i went to coed schools my whole life. i actually dont know anyone who did go to an all girls, or all boys school. But i do see the benefits. All the things you dont have to worry about when you split them up by gender is definetly a plus. when they are younger its the differences in the way they act, and being able to act more freely without having to worry about the opposite sex. and in middle and high school, you have enough to worry about, peer pressure, school work... it would be better not to have to worry about realtionships, or crushes, or anything like that.

However, i do think i may have done better if i didnt worry about the cute guy in my spanish class and what he was thinking about me. but i wouldnt have changed my high school experience for the world. I always got along better with boys. even with all of the drama, and breakups, it was so much fun. Even when i got out of high school i got a job working 3rd shift, stocking shelves at a grocery store. I was the only girl there. and I loved that, i think that while guys can be rude and immature, there is so much less drama than with girls.

though i do remember some of the outfits the girls in my school wore (the short skirts, and low cut tops), and without guys, maybe they wouldnt be wearing those. and that is something i totally want for my daughter.

February 26, 2009 4:28 PM
 

ChiLaura said:

A few women have commented on how they themselves got along better with guys in h.s., or their daughters do now in grade school. I wonder if, once guys are removed from the equation, the girls are actually free to get along better? I wouldn't be at all surprised if the absence of males lets girls build stronger friendships. Think of how much drama in mid sch and h.s. occurred between girls because of a guy. In my experience, a fair amount. I do think that without guys around, it's much more possible for girls to be a whole lot less catty.

February 26, 2009 4:35 PM
 

Treespeed said:

I'm curious if the girls who were in All-Girls schools during HS and JH really did stop worrying and talking about boys. I somehow doubt it. When I was in the Army, not too long after high school, just because there weren't any girls around didn't stop us from talking about them.

February 26, 2009 5:39 PM
 

Lara said:

@ g8grl - that certainly wasn't my experience.  Did girls at my HS drink? While I didn't, yes, there were some that did. I think there are kids at EVERY high school who drink.  But it was definitely the exception, not the rule.  Did I drink in college?  Yes, absolutely.  But not excessively or out of control.

@ ChiLaura - Yes, the girls at my high school definitely got along better than our co-ed counterparts from what I observed.  While there were "groups" - the theater kids, the jocks, the artsy kids, whatever - we were easily able to move from one group to another without ever feeling unwelcome.

@ Treespeed - NO! Of course not.  We weren't asexual. :) We were all concerned about having boyfriends and wondering if boys thought we were cute, etc.  But it wasn't all consuming, and it wasn't something we really thought about much during the day other than lunch.  We weren't trying to flirt or impress boys during classes or anything.  In fact, no one did their makeup or took time to do their hair in anything other than a ponytail. :)  We did have contact with guys - most of us still had guy friends from grade school, from work, etc., and we did projects with the all-boys schools in the area.  So there was no shortage of meeting or socializing with boys - it just wasn't an all-consuming task.

February 27, 2009 11:43 AM

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I'm raising a toddler and a teenager in a leafy suburb just outside Boston. In between having kids I've been an editor and writer, most recently with the African American National Biography and the late great Africana.com.

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