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Should Smoking Be Banned In Cars With Kids?

Posted by Brett Singer

The East London borough of Redbridge says that smokers will no longer be allowed to be foster parentsSo. We have third-hand smoke. It's bad. And so on. More fuel for anti-smoking activists. And when someone says, "We're protecting helpless children!" that makes it harder to argue that they are intruding into our personal lives. Right?

A town in Washington State (can't ban smoking in D.C. – Obama's a smoker!) is considering a bill that would ban smoking in cars with children.
From the AP: "A member of the Tobacco Advisory Board of Pierce County, Leonard Sanderson, told The Olympian the proposal would make it a secondary offense, meaning smoking drivers could be ticketed if they were pulled over for another offense, such as speeding."

I was surprised to learn that California, Arkansas, Louisiana and Maine have all made smoking in cars that have kids in them against the law.

Here's the problem. There's no doubt that smoking around children is bad for their health. I get it. But unless you make smoking illegal (not gonna happen), how is this not a privacy violation? You can't drink and drive, but that's all the time, not just around children. Talking on a cell phone while driving has been deemed dangerous, so most states have laws that say you have to wear a headset. Driving without a seatbelt is dangerous, so if you don't wear a seatbelt, you get a ticket. And so on. None of those laws, however, are specific to children.

Does the law apply to your own children? What about other people's kids? Can you smoke in the car when there are no kids there? Now that we know about third-hand smoke, won't the little tykes be at risk anyway if they ride in a car that was, at one time or another, smoked in? And at what age is it safe to be exposed to second-hand smoke?

And how about bacon, or other smoked meats? Those aren't good for children, right? I mean, come on.

(In case you were wondering, most of that was me going off the deep end for comic effect. Thank you. Tip your waitresses.)

I think it would be great if nobody smoked. It's unhealthy, creates enormous costs for health insurers as those smokers age, and there's the second-hand, third-hand, and fourth-hand (just wait, it'll happen) smoke to contend with. It's a bad habit. But it's still legal. Until it isn't, this seems like an unreasonable law, like the one about smokers not being allowed foster children (which, considering that some kids are writing letters to woo potential foster parents, seems like an unfair restriction).

What do you think? Is this too much of an invasion of privacy? Or does it not matter if it's to "protect our children"?

Source: AP via nwsource.com

Image: Church Times

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Comments

 

Khrystena said:

There are many provinces in Canada, including the one I live in Ontario who have banned smoking in cars with children. As a child of smokers, it made me really sick growing up to be in the back seat of the car while they were smoking. And they opened the windows, I know people who don't do that.

January 7, 2009 1:36 PM
 

NBRMom said:

it should be illegal. The child has no control (they can't hold their breath or not ride in the car), and it is proven to be unhealthy. I consider it a form of child abuse, or neglect at least.

January 7, 2009 2:00 PM
 

BettyWu said:

I'm with you.  Make it illegal or don't.  It's got to be just as unhealthy to be stuck in traffic with your kids - are we going to make that illegal?  

this is not to say I'm a big proponent of cigarettes or CO2.  I also enjoy puppies.  

January 7, 2009 2:47 PM
 

gpgirl said:

I'm not sure I agree with you on the invasion of privacy. A car is not exactly a private space. What you do in a car is highly regulated. (For example, you can't drive drunk, but there is no law saying you can't drink in your home. A cop can pull you over and make you take an alcohol test, which I would think invades your privacy more than noticing you are smoking in your car.)

Also, we require special car seats for children. If you didn't have a child, you wouldn't need one of these seats.

January 7, 2009 3:59 PM
 

Manjari said:

I don't see why anyone needs to protect their right to smoke in a car with a child. I agree with NBRMom.

January 7, 2009 4:17 PM
 

BettyWu said:

Hmmm.  The car seat argument is a good one.

January 7, 2009 4:36 PM
 

lilacorchid said:

I'm not protecting my rights to smoke in the car with a baby or child. It's the feeling that the government is legislating too much of my life. Common sense tells me I shouldn't smoke in the car with a child. Perhaps a better idea would be to launch an ad campaign similar to the anti-drinking and gestating campaign? Embarrassing people into stopping may be more effective than having police chase down smoking parents.

OMG THINK OF THE CHILDREN is really getting old for me. Why can't we stop and decide for ourselves?

January 7, 2009 5:22 PM
 

Manjari said:

lilacorchid, the problem is that so many people don't do the right thing on their own. So if a child has parents that choose to smoke in the car (with the windows rolled up in winter), then that child just deserves all that smoke? Why is thinking of children's welfare "getting old" for you? As a teacher, I have seen so many awful, awful things that happen to children because their parents are not willing or able to stop and decide for themselves to do the right thing. The law would protect the children of those parents, not the children of parents who are already not smoking in cars with their kids. Doesn't that make sense?

January 7, 2009 7:55 PM
 

lilacorchid said:

Manjari, it's not that I think worrying about children's welfare is getting old, I think that the general panic about raising children in the perfect environment is getting old. To me, this law is probably going to be hard to enforce, and frankly, I'd rather the police were busy with other more serious crimes.

I don't think you should smoke in a car with kids. I do believe that instead of making it illegal, there should be ad campaigns to educate the public. Why isn't drinking while pregnant illegal? Doesn't that cause more problems than a second hand smoke? Why can't we have the same sort of public awareness for smoking in cars?

January 8, 2009 9:25 AM
 

jennydecki said:

Because if everyone is busy focusing on smokers, you won't be focusing on your crappy air quality.

Which in most cases (if you're remotely urban) is worse than smoking.

I hate when privacy is sacrificed to the altar of public health under the banner of "for the children" - please! *snort*

January 10, 2009 11:21 PM
 

auschick said:

well most states in Australia have already banned smoking in cars with kids.

as for dc - smoking is already banned in restaurants, pubs, bars etc... even with obama in office, i think dc will prob still stay pretty progressive with its anti-smoking stance :)

January 12, 2009 9:26 PM

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Brett Singer is a writer and father living in Manhattan with his wonderful wife and two terrific sons (referred to here as Thing 1 and Thing 2). He writes about music for the Boston Phoenix, parenting for Babble and daddytips.com, and other topics for anyone else who will have him.

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