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1 would think that if daughter is pregos, they'd hide her. Otherwise, that belly could be sort of normal for a teen. However, I kind of agree about it being highly unlikely that she was back at work 3 days later, and that her daughter was pulled out of school for so long for mono. I say "scandal!" (when there was no need for a scandal in the first place).

If it's true, they probably just need to say it out loud now. Moms raising grandchildren of their teenage daughters as their own is nothing particularly new or even all that scandalous. Some people are big on drama. At least someone in the family is caring for the child.

She went back to work the day after delivering her fourth child, so it doesn't surprise me that she went back the day after this birth.

I agree with steffmarcusy - it doesn't seem that she would allow her unmarried child to pose in a clingy dress if she were pregnant.

But even if the rumor were true, do you honestly think that takes anything away from two decisions I'm quite sure I would not make - to bring a mentally-handicapped child into the world and then to keep it - not put it up for adoption?

I am rabidly pro-choice. I have always said that anti-choice people should put their money where their mouths are and care about the fetus after it's born.

So far, I have found only one anti-choice husband and wife who walked the walk - I wish I could remember their names, but it has been several years since I saw a program about them. He's a doctor, she was a nurse, and after they married, they adopted over twenty children who were usually considered "unadoptable" because of physical or mental handicaps.

When I saw that program, I said, "Okay, you have a right to tell me you believe abortion is wrong. I won't agree with you, but you have more than earned the right to tell me that abortion is wrong."

I don't know that Sarah Palin will earn my respect the way they did, but her choice - whether to raise her own child or her child's child - certainly makes me think she puts her beliefs into action.

Anything else - whether she gave birh to the baby or she is trying to keep her child's mistake from runing her life - doesn't matter.

I'm from Alaska, and this was a big rumor during her pregnancy. I know several people who know Bristol, and said that she was, in fact, pregnant.

Amazing that she did not show at all at her age.  Frankly I was apalled that she had her baby at a local hospital instead of a major medical center equipped to deal with a special needs, premature baby.  If the story is true then it just shows she is a huge liar.  She told a long story about how they chose to keep the baby when finding out it had Downs when she was 4 months along.  I thought they tested for that much earlier. That is is dangerous to do an amnio after 3 months.  Hmmm...

I think it definitely sounds suspicious.  Also that it is a dumb thing to lie about. It happens often in society (grandmas raising grandbabies). If she is lying, it definitely doesnt look good. If this is truly her daughter's baby, then it is time to come forward, before more evidence comes out.

Give me a break, you don't get on a plane after your water has broken to cover up your daughters pregnancy.  Johnnie has made a very bad decision.

One of my coworkers is 7 months along and absolutely does not look pregnant.  It's not her first child.  So it's not inconceivable that she might not show much.  Every woman carries differently.  As for going back to work, I felt so amazing after the birth if my second, I felt like I could have jumped up and ran laps and leaped over hurdles.  No way did I got back to work the next day...but I could have.

The person I feel badly for in this instance is Bristol.  What 17 year old wants pictures of her stomach plastered all over the Internet?

Yeah!  Shame on her.  And, I heard she was a TV sports reporter before she was a mayor.  How disgusting.  She probably has some of the same ideas as those big time team owners, such as George, 'the Baby' Bush.

This is not about Down's, or abortion, or family values, or abstinence, or a mother's love.  This is about politics.  

If the child is Bristol's, it's a world-class cover-up scandal.

If the child is Sarah's, she was reckless with its health-- flying all over North America with her water broken, risking infection, putting the child in distress, and worse.  She placed the importance of a political speech over the welfare of an unborn, premature baby when she was 44 years old-- high risk to begin with.

Either way, she's an abomination.  

Right-Wingers have said they'll admire her more if the Governor's baby is indeed her daughter's... the bigger the hypocrisy, the more they love them.  

But if you'd love her more for being a deceitful manipulator who uses her own children and grandchildren for personal gain, than you ought to be crucified right along with her.

Bristol certainly has a bit of a belly in that photo, Mom doesn't, and Bristol looks much more slender today. The problem with that photo is that it is apparently vintage 2006, and Trig was born April 2008. The photo isn't evidence of anything, either way.

you know what this conversation reeks of? the same crap that people were saying about obama being muslim. "ohhh, i read it on the internet, it MUST be true" - and even though there's more than enough evidence to show that he's not, people continue to believe it... so i could see that even if there's irrefutable evidence that she is in fact the mother, it sounds like most of you wouldn't even care. for shame! and ditto what one poster said - how would you like pics of your teenage daugther's fluctuating weight posted and up for discussion? for shame!

Ash, tit for tat.  I'd be thrilled if people / media would stay out of politicians' personal lives, but it isn't going to happen.  What's good for Obama is good for Palin.

If Palin is really grandma, it shows that she has lied to her constituents.  Yes, it's a shame for her daughter, AND they chose to cover it up.  The old saying fits well -- you made your own bed, now you have to sleep in it.

They've already posted a picture of Sarah during her 1st pregnancy. .She was HUGE. . There is no way that by the fifth her body wouldn't show it. . .And why are pictures gone from the alaska state government website. . way to go McCain. .never trust a person you only met once!

her daughter is currently 5 mos pregnant...

news.yahoo.com/.../usa_politics_palin_dc

Let's do some math.

Trig is 4.5 months old, having been born on April 18th.

Now we are being told the Bristol is "about" 5 months along.

If she's only 4 months pregnant, or 3.5 months pregnant, or if Bristol's baby is born 'late' according to the month count we're being told - Bristol might bethe mother to BOTH babies.

I was showing as early as the fifth month with my first child, but with the second even at 8 months pregnant many people didn't believe I was pregnant: in fact I was in the hospital for food poisoning two weeks before my daughter was born, and a nurse thought I had already given birth...

And amnio is not done before 16 weeks. Those people saying that 4 months is too late are probably thinking about CVS, not amnio.

85% of down babies are BORN to mothers under 35 because they don't undergo routine genetic screening. Those over 35 do, and usually abort the baby. However, Gov. Palin had a far higher risk of having a down baby than her 17 year old daughter (1/35 against 1/1200). The baby having down syndrome strongly suggests that it is the 44 year old woman, not the 17 year old, that gave birth to this baby.

The New York Times posted a story today stating that the daughter is pregnant. Here is the link: thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/.../palins-17-year-old-daughter-is-pregnant

www.votetheday.com/.../sarah-palin-is-not-trigs-mother-132

its prolly tod and bristols baby both of them trig and the other one haha lets see if that ends up somewhere either way palin is a first timer on the national scene here comes the fine comb on her life feel bad for em

trig is not "the down syndrome baby"

trig is a baby WITH down syndrome.

USE PEOPLE FIRST LANGUAGE!

I find this story unbelievable. It is shocking to me what people are capable of. If there wasn't such measurable "evidence" (Palin flying after her water breaking and giving a speech that she "wasn't going to miss", the hospital 45 minutes away, etc.)I'd think less of the likelihood of the whole story. Although there are parts that are unfortunate, mentioned already, either one is an honest person or they are not. The fact that she could get this far, and under the "scrutiny" of being screened, tells me she is not. This is truly frightening, in addition that people could believe in what they think they see. People are not their looks, they are their actions.

Something does seem fishy. Getting on a plane for a long flight after your water broke seems like a VERY stupid thing to do.

I have been wondering why someone so opposed to abortion would go thru genetic testing? I have know a dozen different people who were against abortion and all of them didn't do any testing because they did not want to know. One who did have one of those early test that they do come back showing that there could be problems refused to do any further testing.

I think Trig is Bristol's and she is pregnant, again, with a seocnd baby. Why is Bristol the only family member holding the baby (like a mother woould) during the Friday press conference. Sarah never held the baby, no did she show any particular interest toward him. It will all come out soon. Thank you John McCain.

I totally believe that both babies belong to Bristol. I believe that they made up the story before they realized she would be VP choice. Now whats she to do with the lie.  It is so gonna come out, That is something you just cant cover up. why doesn't she just show pics of herself pregnant with Trig? And again, what is up with a mother of 4, who knows their child has down syndrome, yet her water breaks, she gives a speech (Family First) then hops a plane, and takes a 45mn car ride, while daughter is away at Mono-camp for months, doesn't fit, and like Judge Judy says: If it doesn't make sense, then it isn't true.

Most of us accept Trig was born with Down Syndrome. What if he has fetal alcohol syndrome (FAS)? www.cdc.gov/.../rr5411a1.htm

What if Bristol Palin was boozing while pregnant?

I'm one of those who believes Bristol has one on the hip and one in the oven.

So, I came across this video of Sarah which was taken in March 2008. Keep in mind that this Newsweek video was taken in March which would have been 1 month prior to giving birth to Trig:

link.brightcove.com/.../bctid1761979149

Now tell me....does a pregnant woman who is 6+ months along sit leaned over and legs crossed????

docs.google.com/View

Nuff' said

I can't believe people are even questioning this.  I am blown away.

Has any of Bristol's friends or classmates come forward?  Thing don't add up.  It is more likely Bristol got pregnant shortly after having the baby and will deliver late or "on time" in December due to the fact that her body won't have time to really recover from the first child.

I'm mostly commenting about the facts on mono.  My daughter had mono when she was 17.  She spent a week at home and two trips to the E.R. before they realized she was seriously ill.  She was admitted, tested & they found mono.  She was in the hospital for a little over a week with I.V.'s going & her heart going into spasms.  Once home, she couldn't swallow & another test showed she had strep throat coming from the mono.  She was out of school & off her part time job for close to 2 months & even then it took a long time for her to regain her strength.  Not everyone is a "medical book case" & you can't go by how long it took someone else to get over the same illness.  Try to keep one thought in mind....whoever the baby belongs to in a loving, caring family where the proper care will be given.  

If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck...then it's a duck!!!!!

Where's the birth certificate? Who delivered the baby? Any one of the hospital staff saying they witnessed the birth? Where was the Alaska press when she left the hospital with the baby? Wouldn't there be a ton of photos of the governor???? This should be a simple matter to prove/disprove.

what the...? i believe that sarah palin is totally covering up some scandal with Bristol and that baby with down snydrome. I mean come onnnnnn, who gets on a plane AFTER their water broke, that is so stupid and not to mention highly dangerous. this doesnt affect how i think of her as a VP candidate but it does make me question how she is as a human being.

What I don't get is why Sarah would even do genetic testing (whether by CVS or amnio) at all.  Her pro-life stance would render the results entirely meaningless, would it not?  And given that both CVS and amnio can cause miscarriage, why take on the risk, no matter how small, for results you don't care about one way or another?

I did the blood tests when I was pregnant to see if there were any genetic concerns.  It was a simple blood test, and my husband and I decided we would rather know and be prepared, instead of waiting.  There was no way I wasn't going to keep my baby, but I would have rather prepared myself.  I don't think any pregnant person doesn't care about the results of all the tests and exams you go through.

What a mess!

I just heard the National Enquirer is sending reporters up to Alaska to dig up info on Governor Palin. I know they're not the most respected of publications but they were the one's who uncovered the John Edwards nastiness.  We shall see...

Wow, that Bristol is a real ho.

You know, looking at the daughter during the RNC convention earlier this week, she could easily pass for someone who delivered a baby 5 months ago whereas, Sarah Palin does not. Isn’t the daughter supposed to be 5 months pregnant currently? It’s interesting that Trig is just about 5 months old.

I wonder if their strategy is to "kill" a huge scandal (i.e. that Trig is really daughter's son) by replacing that story with another “juicy” but less damaging one (i.e., that the daughter is in fact pregnant). If so then of course this is all designed to remove attention from the bigger scandal but yet give the public something to chew on and perhaps draw some publicity and public sympathy.

If Trig is indeed Sarah's grandson, then it would mean that the daughter's boyfriend (Levi) is in on it too. Notice that his parents were not present at the RNC convention. It would also mean the hospital where Trig was delivered is in on it too. Is that even possible?

Also, if Trig is truly Sarah's grandson, then Bristol is NOT really pregnant currently (unless she’s pregnant for the second time).  So what happens if no baby is born is the next 4 months? Perhaps we may wake up one morning to breaking news about an alleged loss of a pregnancy ( a pregnancy which never really was..); a ploy to resolve the issue of why a baby will not be born within the next 4 months.  If this were to happen, wouldn’t it be interesting that it occur a few weeks before the election…..and move intended to draw on heartstrings a sympathetic pubic…especially women!

As a parent of a D.S. adult I can tell you that Sarah is NOT the mother.  Her actions speak volumes.  She is a liar and is enabling her daughter.  Secrets are only kept in sick families.

Down's Syndrome is a condition that requires an extreme amount of time and energy from the parents. Sarah Palin is not putting the welfare of her child above her own personal desire for power. Her actions in Texas, flying home, risking infection, giving birth at a small local hospital attest to her inablity to accept Trig's condition and needs. Now it appears that she willing exposes her baby to everyone and anyone. Down's Syndrome weakens the immune system. His appearances in public and at the convention are a risk to his health. Mrs. Palin does not have good judgement and I would not want her a heartbeat away from the Presidency

I think all this is just stupid, I think that the child is Sarah's and that her daughter is pregnant now, but what is it to any of ya'll to sit here and down here because of the decision she made for her family, if in fact trig is Bristol's you don't know the situtation that took place for her to say it was her's. All of ya'll need to get off your fucking high horse, acting like your better than this woman, cause either way she has done a good damn job taking care of that baby. Probably alot more than we can say for any of ya'll. Don't be concerned about who's kid this is be concerned with her views in politics.

"Brittany said:

I think all this is just stupid, I think that the child is Sarah's and that her daughter is pregnant now, but what is it to any of ya'll to sit here and down here because of the decision she made for her family, if in fact trig is Bristol's you don't know the situtation that took place for her to say it was her's. All of ya'll need to get off your fucking high horse, acting like your better than this woman, cause either way she has done a good damn job taking care of that baby. Probably alot more than we can say for any of ya'll. Don't be concerned about who's kid this is be concerned with her views in politics."

My response to Britney:

I really don't think anyone is that concerned on whether the child is hers or her daughter's.  I feel we are really concerned about why she has never been forthright with the pregnancy, Bristol's condition in which she missed five mths of school and Bristol's currents situation.  He family entittled to live their lives as they please but her disregard for the truth is menacing.  Especially because she chooses to live in the glare of public scrutiny.  She has by default blessed her children with this too.  That comes with running for public office.  He live a how she lives it and the choices she makes affect how we veiw how she with help set up legislation or advise on it.  She is for me now representing the women of America.  I am an educated woman and I have 3 children.  I have always been a Republican but will vote for Obama and change my party affiliation. I don't want her representing women.  Her values are unclear and her stance on civil rights is also in question.  Yesterday I learned the 30 states in our union have no laws defending gays if they loose their job based on knowledge of their sexual orientation.  Alaska and Arizona are two of those states.  Obama is for equal rights.  We live in a different world.  I am not gay but served in the military during the first gulf war.  I served along gays too afraid to say they were in fear of being kicked out.  We have to change this country catch up with the world and separate our church and state since we are America free to all people and religion.  We are not a country just for Heterosexual Christians.  Open your eyes and learn of her political view and don't talk down to you fellow American with fowl and improper English.  Take a step up and educate your self.  

Before anyone disses me.  I do realize all the grammatical errors I made.  I was heated and neglected to reread before I sent.  And if it matters to Britney I am a Christian also but my religious views are mine not everyone in this country.  

Sarah Barracuda is awesome !  She can easily lie and do cover-ups with the Big Boys, like Nixon, Cheney, Kissinger.  It takes nerves of steel to wear a sympathy suit in public and pretend to be pregnant for 6 weeks, when even your closest aides and staff have seen you not an ounce pregnant for seven months !  Show no fear, stare them down, the sheeple will never look too close or risk being called rumormongers.  Awesome !  And smart, too, that 'premature' ruse worked perfectly - just 6 weeks to 'explain' away, then presto, Trig arrives, back to work.  Trips galore, bobbing and weaving, they never suspected a thing, just a strong-as-a-moose Hockey Mom, a pitbull in lipstick :-)  "Sure I can fly 18 hours after my water leaked, I'm tougher than your husband !" There's like 2 photos that show her 'pregnant', but it's her *attitude*, her *do not dare question me* glare that pulled it all off.  My heroine !  No one has the balls to call her a baldfaced liar, and Sarah *knew* it !

And this is just natural talent.  Imagine once she gets hooked into the National Republican circles, those guys are world class - assassinations, disinformation, they can make and break newspapers and TV stations with a phone call, they can make people end Presidential runs with a fax.  Imagine Sarah Barracuda with THOSE resources at her fingertips after Old Man McCain has an unfortunate accident ?

Step aside Hilary, we have a First Woman President !  Republican Rule for another 30 years, people will never look back at a simple pregnancy cover up after she is VP, then President.  Things will move so fast, they will be arguing over why did we nuke Tehran, and Trig will be forgotten like last weeks newspaper.  God, I can't wait for 2009 !

Something is wrong with this story. I am a mother of two and who in their right mind would take the chance of giving birth in front of a roomful of governors or on a plane with people you don't know? Not to mention all of the issues about it being a high risk pregnancy and birth. Can you imagine giving a speech while amniotic fluid is seeping from you? Isn't it instinct that causes us when we are in labor to want to feel safe and in a place where you can prepare yourself for birth? I don't know why she would tell this story but it goes against all maternal instinct as I have known it and as I have observed it.

You're right.  This story smells worse than ten day old Halibut.  We deserve to know the facts.  IF it was her baby (Sarah's), why lie about it until the seventh month?  

Mono?  Anyone figure out that for Bristol to be "about" five months pregnant now, it means she got preggie while having mono?  And what are the dates of all those boozing photos of her?

FAS = fetal alcohol syndrome.  This is a train wreck of a hoax Palin is trying to pull over on the American public.

Has anyone ever considered the possibility, the down syndrome child could belong to the 14 year old daughter?

At any rate; I do believe that SARAH PALIN is just a PLAIN LIAR!!!!!!!!!! And she cannot be trusted with our USA.

Truth for Fame

People trade truth for the fame,

It’s part of the political game…

Yet God never lies, with love comes surprise…

A child belongs to the same.

What perplexes me more is the thought

That God wants us in wars that we fought…

What part of God’s will , In thou shall not kill

Is justified now with what’s sought.

People trade truth for the fame

So wrapped up in their self centered game…

That they’d compromise love and lock up a dove…

With a series of lies, that’s insane.

People trade truth for the lies…

That are harder these days to deny…

And the bigger it grows, Concerns tragic impose…

Youthful  innocent lives you’ve denied.

If keeping America safe,

Relies not on issues, but faith…

I’ll place “In God we trust”

At the front of a must

To vote for two men with such grace.

I think she is the grandma...........everything points to that

PALIN KNOW THATS NOT HER BABY WHY WOULD A MONEY HUNGRY WOMAN LIKE PALIN WOULD WANT A BABY AT THIS POINT IN HER LIFE.PALIN DONT EVEN HAVE TIME FOR HER CHILDREN COME ON. YOU THINK THATS WHY BRISTOL RUNNING WILD.PALIN NEED TO ASK FOR FORGIVIN BEFORE ITS TO LATE AND GO HOME AND WATCH OVER HER OTHER GIRLS.PALIN DO NOT PUT FAMILY FIRST SHE JUST TRYING TO MAKE HISTORY BECAUSE SHE LOVE THE SPOT LIGHT LIKE 1984.PALIN NEEDS TO GO HOME AND TEACH SAFE SEX TO HER GIRLS.INSTEAD OF TRYING TO RUN THE USA SHE DONT HAVE CONTROL OF PALIN HOUSE SO HOW SHE GOING TO RUN THE BIGGGGG WHITE HOUSE .PALIN CANT CONTROL 4 DOOR OPEN LESS LEASE 100'S IN THE WHITE HOUSE.    

CHARLIE GIBSONS MADE S.PALIN LOOK DUMB FOUND.

After seeing the footage of Sarah during the newsweek interview, crossed legged and bending over I truly beleive she is Trig's grandmother...

Nothing wrong with that but the hypocrasy is amazing... Do we really want people who distort de truth as the leaders of this country?

I'm sorry but I don't think they should.

I find this whole story disturbing.  As a labor and delivery RN for 27 years, the thought of a woman pregnant with her 5th child getting on a long airplane flight with ruptured membranes is absolutely ridiculous!  No obstetrican in his right mind would tell his pt. to do that.  He or She would have told her to get to the nearest hospital that has a neonatal unit and could take care of an infant that is preterm with down's syndrome.  On CNN this weekend, they did a profile of her and speaking of this birth, she states, "I had to give birth on Alaskan soil".  Why is that??  Is that because when Alaska seceeds from the Union that you must be a native or that she wasn't really pregnant after all and she had to get home to be there when the daughter delivered!  Even if it turns out to be Sarah Palin's baby, what kind of judgement does that show for someone to be so unconcered about the welfare of your unborn child?  The thought of her being in the White House really frightens me!

Laura - I also saw the News Week interview she gave in March of 2008 (1 month before she supposedly delivered Trig).  I'm definitely convinced that he’s not her baby.  I’m a mother of four and there is no way that I nor any of my friends that have children could have crossed our legs and lean forward throughout an entire interview as she did.  It’s impossible at 7 months even if the baby is small.

         watch Palin at 7 months

www.youtube.com/watch

After researching online, I believe that Bristol is the mother of Trig...in addition to the above clues, there are pics online of LEVI's (Bristols boyfriend)family holding and kissing Trig. ODD. Why did Palin remove DOZENS of family photos on the state website soon after the CBC (Canadian TV station)aired a NEWS SEGMENT about the possibility of Palin passing off Bristol's baby as her own? Why is there NO OFFICIAL RECORD of Trig's birth?  Trig is short for Trigonometry, a high school math class.

Believe it or not, it is somewhat common for teen mothers to get pregnant soon after giving birth-they either think it's not possible because their period hasn't  resumed (It is possible!!), or they want a replacement baby for the one they are forced to give up.  Coincidentally,at the Alaska Regional Hospital, a baby boy was born to father "Levi"on April 18 (Trig's birthday)-the photo is very interesting-check out the eye shape. Still a few too many missing pieces of this puzzle...

Also, Sarah Palin was a teen mother with a shotgun wedding, too.  Is Bristol really pregnant now, or will there be a "miscarriage" in November?  Is she really 5 months pregnant, or four? Hollywood couldn't have penned a better soap!

why does it matter to everyone whether the baby is hers or Bristol's?

She's running for VP, not mother of the year. If you're going to judge based on whether she lied about Trig being hers, you're not making a very wise choice.

Her personal life has nothing to do with us. We don't need to judge her like that, or her daughter for that matter. Families go through some very difficult things sometimes, and we don't always need to know EXACTLY what's going on.

Still no birth certificate. This would stop the rumor. Release it. The McCain Palin ticket is frightening.

Are birth certificates public record? Probably not, although, hmmm...anyone know? Of course, it could be faked. A conspiracy theory, perhaps. It would be hard to keep secret. I wonder if anyone from the Wasillia hospital delivery room has made any statements about his or was questioned when this controversy came up? Any witnesses to the birth?

 One thing I find really curious and haven't seen any evidence of, is if ANY governor of ANY state had a baby while in office, wouldn't this be a MAJOR photo op?  Did the Alaska papers cover this????

This is a sad story.  Does Sarah Palin think that this cover up will help her.  I think it will destroy her, and leave everlasting scars on Bristol.

Stand up SARAH and  be the grandma to TRIG, that the nation

already knows to be true.

God Bless you Bristol, I will pray for you and your 2 kids.

Women. You can kill a baby in yor womb. You can kill a baby on the way out of that womb. But you can't stand the fact that a woman would bring a child to life. Even though it has a defect.  Women.  Look at yourselves. Your trying to destroy an honest God fearing woman, becaue your more interest in electing an empty suit. God Forgive You.

Tony, are you out of your mind? I don't think any woman has ever been happy about the fact that she can't carry a baby full to term, and I think you are sick in insinuating that we all kill our baby's. If Palin was an HONEST woman then there wouldn't be this controversy over baby TRIG. If Palin was a decent human being she wouldn't be charging a rape victim for a "test kit" at the emergency room. I believe Palin is a snake in the grass and America will be bit big time if she is elected as VP. May God forgive you.