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A friend told me the other day that she thinks that stories about labor and pregnancy are a woman's version of war stories.  Since some women also go to war, there are many out there who have actual war stories, but, still, I get where she's going on this one.  My brother is an officer in the Navy and, ever since he was at the Naval Academy, old men have accosted him with their tales of battle.  About ten years ago, we were on the subway in Washington DC, he was in uniform, and a 70-something man didn't really want us to get off to go to the Smithsonian, because he wasn't yet done talking about his time in Korea.  My brother is very good about this sort of thing, patient and polite and full of yes sirs. 

 

I would probably be a better person if I could follow his lead in my responses to the pregnancy war stories because, my lord, they sure do flood out there as soon as you appear to be pregnant.  I'm not quite sure what people are trying to accomplish with these stories - scare me with their tales of 33 hours of labor?  Make me realize that episiotomies are not so fabulous?  Bond over the hours of pain we will soon have in common?  Get me to stop bitching about my vain weight gain worries and hip pain by putting them in stark relief against the death of their second cousin's firstborn?  Encourage me not to depend on my husband because he'll faint in the delivery room, just like their husbands did?  Make me even more paranoid about ending up on bed rest for weeks, with nothing to do but watch 90210 reruns?  The best I can manage is a half-hearted smile, and a mumble of something like "Oh, I'm sorry to hear that," or "That's interesting about your, umm, tearing situation," before I walk away. 

 

Whatever it is that they're trying to do, I wish they would stop.  There's a reason Francis Ford Coppola never made a pregnancy version of Apocalypse Now - no one would watch it.  I already have nightmares about losing the baby - though I also had one fabulous dream in which my baby, on its third day of life, slept all the way through the night and, worried, I called the doctor who said, "Oh, you're just lucky.  You have a perfect baby."  Alas, it was just a dream.  

 

As for the pain of labor, I don't really see what these stories about hours of agony will accomplish.  It's not a mystery that giving birth hurts.  A lot.  I will get through it, as women have for thousands of years.  Instead of talking about the excrutiating pain, why don't women who've been there tell first-time pregnant ladies about the things that helped them get through?   Even my husband (he's a firefighter - they're big fans of the war story genre) got in on the action the other day, talking about a call he'd gone on with a woman who was in labor, and how he almost got to perform an emergency episiotomy in the ambulance - once again, not helpful.  I do not need to know quite that much detail about the leg and umbilical cord dangling out of her.  At least I don't have to worry about him passing out. 

 

I've got a doctor, I've got a labor class, I've got pregnancy books - so the rest of these graphic and gruesome stories, unless they've got a more positive spin, can be left unsaid.  Keep it to yourself, people, and try not to scare the pregnant girl.  My mother, ever the optimist, told me that labor wasn't so bad, and that she imagined the pain when I broke both the bones in my forearm, which had to wait for two days to be set in surgery during which I was throwing up from my allergy to the pain meds, was probably worse than labor.  I have a friend who gave birth in her living room in a birthing tub, and raves about her experience.  I know another who had a c-section, and says, if you have the chance, go for the it and avoid the whole labor thing.  I'm neither a homebirth nor an elective surgery kind of girl, but I really appreciate both of these positive stories amidst the tales of excrutiating pain and endlessly long labor. 

 

What about the rest of you?  Any horror stories told my well-meaning little old ladies that sent you running?  And, more importantly, any good labor or pregnancy stories?

 


Comments

 

elizabeth said:

I met a girl in yoga who said something I thought was particularly smart about the whole experience.  She said there are 5 things about the process - conception, pregnancy, delivery, breastfeeding, and dealing with a newborn - and they won't all be great and they won't all be horrible.  Point is, some things will go particularly well/easy for you and some things won't, but it all evens out somehow.  

When I was pregnant with my two children, I kind of enjoyed hearing about others' experiences because I just thought, knowledge is power.  And was somewhat more prepared when things (inevitably) dont go as planned.  

August 16, 2007 10:56 PM
 

yotko said:

AMEN, sister.  I gave birth to my first 3 months ago, and for the 9 months prior to that, had to listen to every hellish pregnancy/labor story all of my parent "friends" ever dealt with!  

HOWEVER, I had a scheduled induction, beginning at 8 pm, got my epidural around 3 (though my water DID break just as I sat up for it, and had to remain perfectly still sitting in a puddle for the 10-15 minutes it took to administer the epidural), started pushing around 4:45, 3-4 "sets" of pushes, and out came Maggie half an hour later!!

I like to think women tell these stories to "help" prepare us for what can, and often, does, happen during delivery, and to help us realize that it really wasn't that bad when it's all over with.  

August 16, 2007 11:21 PM
 

Karen said:

I have found that most women don't want to hear my easy pregnancy and easy labour and delivery story. I figured out that I was having contractions at 2:30 am and my son (our first) was born at 7:15 am. After waiting for 2 hours of 3-5 minutes between contractions before getting to the hospital, there wasn't time for the epidural I requested - I was already in transition. And actually, knowing that it wasn't going to be much longer meant I didn't mind not having pain relief. I wasn't married to the idea of natural childbirth but had it anyway. The thing that got me through was pushing. As soon as the pain was setting in I knew I had work to do. No episiotomy but afterwards, I did need a couple of stitches. baby latched on after 20 minutes. My OB told me later, "Karen, I thought you were going to have a good delivery, but that was ridiculous."

There you go. It can happen. First baby, short, healthy delivery, no complications. You'd never believe it could happen with all the war stories out there. It probably helped that I'm very tall (5'11.5") and my son was smallish at birth (7 lb 1 oz).

Another positive thing: Y'know how on TV they hand the baby to the mom right away, all slimy and gross? and you're thinking: Yuck, could they not clean that off first? Well, it's not gross. It's warm and silky. a really nice feeling.

Breastfeeding was painful for a few days but what I did about it was to visit a breastfeeding clinic the day after my son was born and also the following day. The maternity ward nurses can help but they don't have time to sit with you and really coach you on technique.

A couple of things about childbirth I never heard about or read in any of my pregnancy reading that I might have wanted to know:

- during contractions, the nurses stretched my perineum pretty hard. I didn't like that.

- after the baby was born, my OB pushed down on my abdomen pretty hard, I'm guess to put my uterus back where it belonged. I didn't like that either.

August 16, 2007 11:30 PM
 

Sara said:

I generally like hearing the stories, good and bad (with a few exceptions), and I do think that it has a way of bonding women together, even women who aren't mothers themselves, because it's something unique that our bodies can do. And it's really freaking incredible.

I can understand not wanting to hear the horror stories all the time, though, because I'm preparing for a positive, calm, and natural birth, myself, and part of that process involves not being afraid. Those horror stories can be really scary.

But I actually have had two nice stories shared with me. One was even before I got pregnant, a professor of mine told me that childbirth doesn't actually hurt like any other thing hurts because it's a productive effort, and at the end of the labor you have this whole new person that you created with someone out of love. I really appreciated her perspective.

The other story came from an associate who, when I told her I was pregnant, asked if I was going to do natural childbirth, and she told me about her great experiences. One was at a hospital or birth center, and the second was at home, and she actually ended up giving birth before her midwife even arrived. She said that it was really great with just the two of them there and her husband catching the baby.

And like you, I'm not having a home birth, but I really enjoy hearing about those positive experiences, too. But I guess on the other hand, even the "war stories," the bad ones, are probably offered in the same spirit, that no matter what kind of labor/birth you experience, it is still awe-inspiring and powerful and incredible with such a great reward.

August 17, 2007 9:29 AM
 

knockedup said:

Sara: I love the perspective your professor shared about the pain of labor being productive.  You are right that the ability to bear children and give birth is pretty incredible; I would probably be a much less neurotic person if I could focus on that more.  

You and Elizabeth are right that knowledge is power, and I don't want to ignore potential complications or negative things that might occur - I just would prefer not to hear about them in graphic detail while in the supermarket check-out line.  

Karen and Yotko:  Thanks for the stories of your easy labors - they help balance out some of the horrible tales.

August 17, 2007 10:15 AM
 

regandbabe said:

seriously it wont be as bad as you think it will be. I had all these women telling me the horror stories and i was freaked out, but in reality there was a ton of this crazy burning sensation as he stretched me out (bring a bottle of water to pour on your cooter as the babe crowns it will help immemsely) and that was it. contractions hurt yes but as each one ends you have to rememeber you'll never have to have that one again...and once the slimy little babino is put nto your arms you wont even if it hurt or not!

and the war storeies never end, after birth you will get lot of "oh you have no dea what you're in for blah blah blah" as if you didnt realize having a baby would lead to some sleepless nights etc...

August 17, 2007 1:01 PM
 

BabyCakies said:

There's a string of good birth stories in the Community section of this site--all sorts of warm, lovely, real stories, including my own.  

The thought that the pain signaled progress rather than a problem was what got me through to nine cm before getting an epidural.  Had I known at the time I was so far along, I may have opted to go natural, but I wasn't checked until after the wondrous numbness began.

I agree about knowledge being power, too.  I liked hearing all the stories and knowing what to expect in a variety of situations.  So when the midwife told me there was meconium in my water, I knew without an explanation that my daughter would need to be checked immediately rather than placed on my chest.  I also knew that with a quick check to make sure she hadn't breathed anything in, she would be fine.

It was a great experience, and I really hope your baby's birth is great for you, too!

August 17, 2007 4:34 PM
 

AmyinMotown said:

I remember very clearly a party I attended on my due date and it seemed like every person here had a story of a stillbirth, or an opinion on whether or not I should get an epidural, or a story of someone who went a month overdue and then was in labor for 96 hours (I was not progressing and getting  a mite bit pissy about that fact). Did not want to hear it AT ALL.  I worried enough without hearing horror stories.  WTF is that about, anyway? I mean it's one thing for a person to share a difficult birth story in a public forum like a blog where you have the option of clicking away, but entirely another to ON PURPOSE tell someone an unsolicited awful story. As some else here said, it's not as if we haven't thought about the scary stuff!

(and I am not telling you mine because it was a little scary, but we had the help we needed right away and our daughter was healthy and gorgeous and I was just fine too, so the outcome was perfect).

August 17, 2007 5:59 PM
 

mrsjennahatfield said:

You said: "It's not a mystery that giving birth hurts.  A lot.  I will get through it, as women have for thousands of years.  Instead of talking about the excrutiating pain, why don't women who've been there tell first-time pregnant ladies about the things that helped them get through?"

While it's not a mystery that giving birth hurts, there is no way to adequately describe it to a mother who has yet to experience that pain. The sharing of stories is the not-so-perfect attempt in doing so. If no one ever shared their own birthing war stories, mothers everywhere would say, "NO ONE TOLD ME ANYTHING LIKE THIS WOULD HAPPEN. OMGOW." Even still, the pain of labor my first time around left me thinking, "WELL, NO ONE TOLD ME IT WAS LIKE... THIS! OMGOW."

As for what got me through? Good support. Breathing techniques were useless for me as was visualization. I'm also one who needs quiet during stressful situations so the planned music was a no-go for our labor. (Though we're preparing it again just in case I do want something relaxing to listen to this time around.) Quite frankly, without the labor support I've had, I wouldn't have made it through as well. If you're having a clash with a nurse, SPEAK UP and ask to be reassigned. You should always feel comfortable with the people in your room. If you're not, it can shade your labor experience.

You make your own labor experience. Well, okay, technically, the child makes the experience and that's why birth plans don't always GO as planned... but your own outlook and the POSITIVE reassurance from your support person(people) can make a WORLD of difference.

And yes, as you said, you will be fine. Take the war stories of others, file them under, "Well, much like driving down the road and not being in a horrendous accident everyday, my labor and delivery could go just fine. I don't speed or drive recklessly and I should plan for a calm birthing experience accordingly... things might go wrong but we'll all survive."

:)

August 17, 2007 9:26 PM
 

Ewokmama said:

When I told a co-worker (a nurse) that I was planning an unmedicated birth, she insisted I should have meds because her tailbone was broken during labor.  Thankfully I'm very level-headed and realized it was a very abnormal thing that happened.  I loved my med-free birth.

August 18, 2007 12:15 AM
 

Dragon said:

I understand what you mean about the war stories-- I'm due sept. 9th and I get them all the time, even from relatives who should know better :) I can see that it's kind of like a bonding thing "I went through this and you will too, let me share it with you", but I'm scared enough without all the tales of horror and pain. I know it will hurt. I know it will be different from anything I've ever experienced. But hearing that so and so's epidural didn't work because they were too overweight or that someone's cousin was in labor for some obscene number of hours does nothing but give me nightmares. I just keep thinking, "it's been alright so far, it'll probably continue to be alright."

 --dragon

good luck!

August 18, 2007 4:01 AM
 

Sherry said:

First of all, I was pregnant the first time once upon a time too, so I can understand your point.  Those kinds of "horror stories" scared me too.  Then you have one or two kids, or more,  and you realize those stories have nothing to do with you.  Women who have never had a child or are pregnant with their first seem to take those stories so personally, like the person is saying "this will happen to you" but that isn't what they are saying. Your experience will more than likely be totally different.

You said, " I'm not quite sure what people are trying to accomplish with these stories ."  I am not sure why people tell stories about other women's births, but when they tell stories about giving birth themselves I don't think they are trying to accomplish anything. They are sharing.  Trying to talk about something that was amazing, and beautiful and a life changing event. Something you can only truly understand if you have been through it.  They are trying to just get someone to listen.  

Almost everyone will sit around and listen to men ramble on telling war stories about death and destruction over and over, sometimes out of courtesy but often  because they really want to hear these stories.

Who wants to hear birth stories though?  Almost no one.  I think that is so sad.   Men of any age don't want to hear birth stories.  Women who have never given birth or are pregnant with their first generally don't want to hear them for the very reasons you have written about.  Usually the only ones who will listen are women who have already given birth and understand that often  mothers, especially in the first few weeks or months after giving birth, want to tell their story.   There may be an exception here and there and if there are I am sure they will pop up and rant at me, but most women not only want to talk about giving birth but NEED to talk about it. How can you not want to talk about something that changes you life so drastically?  

So, honestly, I think you should be thankful to these women telling you these stories because soon you are more than likely going to want to talk about your own birth experience and they are going to be the only ones willing to listen.  

August 19, 2007 2:57 AM
 

chyna823 said:

Your mom is probably right that your broken-arm experience was worse than childbirth will be. The main reason, I think, that childbirth pain is tolerable is that you know for certain that within 24 hours, usually less, that the pain will be over. It has an end clearly in sight, because one way or another that baby is comin' out. And you know that it will all be worth it because in a relatively short time, you'll get to meet the person you've been waiting for all these months.

August 21, 2007 4:35 PM
 

April said:

Ditto on what Karen said. I have found that no one wants to hear the story of my easy birth, easy breastfeeding and not-even so difficult pregnancy! When i would talk to friends they ask- "So are your ankles swollen?" "So does the baby stay up all night?" "So does breastfeeding feel really weird/hurt?" And they always seem to be disappointed with my "No." I guess horror stories are more interesting than "She sleeps a lot."

But- my labor was short, only 8-ish hours, and well, of course it hurt, but I already am over it! Let's go again! (JK, I'll wait!) Breastfeeding has gone without incident and  if I can do it (this is my first and I know nothing about kids) than anyone can. IMO it's all about confidence. Good luck!

August 22, 2007 12:57 AM
 

paulahess said:

if you decide that you don't want to hear these stories anymore, don't listen.  don't invite people to share them.  read wonderful, positive stories instead -- <I>ina may's guide to childbirth</i> by ina may gaskin is a magnificent source.

you have control over your pregnancy/childbirth experience but only if you decide for yourself that you want that control.

best of luck to you!

August 23, 2007 1:49 PM
 

paulahess said:

oh, p.s: my very positive <a href="phaneromania.blogspot.com/.../otto-walters-birth-story.html">birth story</a> is online.  check it out!

August 23, 2007 1:52 PM
 

jessH said:

When I was pregnant, the most comforting encounter I ever had was with a mom who told me all about her quick, semi-painless, 3-pushes, dream delivery and assured me it's really not that bad.  That was the one story I chose to concentrate on and I ignored the rest, assuming I would have an easy delivery, too!  

August 23, 2007 1:55 PM
 

mommyknows said:

I felt the same as you did when I was pregnant with the 1st of my 4 kids. My mother knowing I didn't want all the horror stories, told me pretty much exactly what your mother told her. I remember accusing her of lying the day after my first daughter was born and she said, "you didn't want to hear it".

Now I enjoy comparing battle stories with my girl friends, it a bond women share. We're not trying to scare you just welcome you to the club. Most women I know keep it toned down for the new girls!

Ummm ... your c-section friend is nuts! It might make the actual delivery easier, but recovering from major abdominal surgery and looking after a newborn ... well let's just say it's easier the other way.

Good Luck ... it's not so bad (that's what I'm supposed to say right?).

MK

August 23, 2007 1:55 PM
 

Alayne said:

I think your policy of responding politely is a good one--because sadly, women seem to want to share this kind of thing with other women.

When I was pregnant with our daughter, my husband's aunt told me the horror story of her full-term stillborn son, whose heart was outside his body so wasn't it a blessing that he died. I was already a little worried because I was 33 (read: old, at least in her eyes) at the time and had developed a non-life-threatening (but still worrying) heart condition. My husband still has not forgiven her for doing that.

I hated labor. My pregnancy was easy (the heart condition was very manageable) and progressed normally. But labor, even though it only lasted 14 hours, was a miserable experience for me. I tried to do it natural, and lasted for almost 8 hours, but by 5 am I was yelling for somebody to go wake up the on-call anaesthesiologist. It didn't help that they didn't know that my daughter was "sunny side up" (face-up), which made everything that much harder--I pushed for 3 hours before they finally did an episiotomy and put vacuum on her G I A N T noggin to help me. She was 7 lbs 4 oz but her head circumference put her in the 97th percentile, which is why I had such a hard time (it comes naturally--both her dad and I have large craniums).

I also hated the nurse who came by to Rolph my belly right after I gave birth--apparently to help me expel the rest of the placenta--if I'd had the strength, I would have punched her in the mouth, because it hurt almost as bad as labor, and she didn't even bother to warn me.

That said, in hindsight it wasn't that bad. I had no problems breastfeeding or pumping and my daughter was (is) a gorgeous baby (she's now 3) so I think it might be time to go again...

August 23, 2007 3:56 PM
 

superblondgirl said:

I never got horror stories, luckily.  My mom worked in a hospital in the birthing center there, and I'm the oldest of 4 kids, so I guess everyone figured that she would have told me plenty over the years.... but she's a sweetheart and never did.  She made me feel better about the whole thing whenever I got scared - I mean, if this woman had 4 babies, and helps deliver who knows how many babies every day, how bad can it be, right?  My own horror story isn't so much - I gave birth.  It took several hours, it hurt like hell, but it's been over for a while now, and I have no lasting scars, and I got this cool baby to keep afterward!  It's one of those things like shots - yes, it sucks, and yes, it hurts, but it does end and once it's over you're fine.  And a baby is better than a lollipop any day.  Even a Tootsie one.

August 23, 2007 6:35 PM
 

diera said:

I had a long labor and it ended with a C-section, but I don't consider it a horror story in the slightest. Labor wasn't that painful for me.  It was very uncomfortable and I got tired but the most painful thing that happened was an IV that hit a nerve or something and made me yelp.  The nurses and doctors were unfailingly kind and supportive, no one tried to push me into making any decisions I didn't want to make, and a volunteer doula stayed with us long after her shift was over just to make sure we were OK.  When we finally went for the surgery, the staff that took us through that were terrific too. I bounced back really quickly, much more quickly than I'd been worried about, and of course I've got my awesome firstborn to show for it.  I'm 36 weeks pregnant with my second and I'm not worried a bit, even though I'm not sure if I'm going to wind up with a VBAC or another section.

I guess my point is that even when it's not a 2-hour labor with three pushes, it doesn't mean it's inevitably going to be the worst thing that ever happened.  For me it was just... like somewhere you have to go on foot and there's no way to make it shorter or less work to get there, but you've got help along the way and if you just focus on each step as it comes it's a lot easier.  The destination *is* up ahead even if you can't see it from where you're standing, you just need to keep moving towards it and you'll get there!

August 24, 2007 10:53 AM
 

Stephanie said:

We tell the stories because we want to relive it, and we're all a little too selfish to think about how it might affect the listener. And because stories create connection. To think that the story is about the listener is silly.

But, I will do my best not to tell my story, because it was a little problematic, and nobody needs to know about all of it. But I will share that you need to take it seriously when the nurse says to push more during active labor. I didn't, and labor went on longer than it should have, his poor head had a hematoma where he kept hitting, and I ended up finding the strength to keep pushing more anyway.

August 24, 2007 6:24 PM
 

Hoagy said:

Those stories won't end. Even after the birth some women keep talking about the birth. It's boring. I didn't want to hear the labour horror stories when I was pregnant and I'm not interested in labour and delivery stories now. I don't get the fascination with them. I certainly have no interest in repeating mine to anyone (which can be recounted as "I pushed and pushed and pushed then they vaccumed him out and all was well").

My public health-led mommy group started with us all telling our delivery stories (yawn) and I find that some of my friends still want to recount them. When this happens it generally makes me question why I am still hanging out with my mommy group when there is so much more to talk about.

August 24, 2007 10:41 PM
 

Marissa said:

When I see a pregnant woman all I share is the following: " You will tell your birth story as a badge of honor, but it will seem like  distant memory the minute you hold that baby."  It's true. Ignore the horror stories, they are not helpful right now. Believe in your body's ability to guide you through. You are stronger than you can imagine, we all are. I think back to my labor and marvel at what I did, it was amazing and I have never felt more proud of anything. Pain relief or not, it DOES NOT MATTER...you will have that baby the way you feel is best.

PS Those 3D ultrasounbds are so freakin cool!

August 25, 2007 11:53 PM
 

wilmdelmom said:

No matter how your baby arrives - scheduled c-section, 8 days on pitocin, whatever - there will be a moment when there are, say, 5 people in the room, and then a moment later there will be 6.  Simply that.  Because the brilliant miracle of birth is so impossible to capture, some are compelled to share the story of the road that brought them there.  I say interrupt the next well-intentioned stranger and ask instead "what was the best thing about it?"  To that question, the answer will often be the same - meeting your baby, face to face.  All else should pale in comparison.

P.S.  I'm not some koo-koo spiritual person - and delivery was no picnic in my experience - but I'm now preg with twins and going at it the second time around offers a whole new perspective.  Best of luck!

August 29, 2007 8:32 PM

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