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My middle-schooler's "You Can Ask And I MIGHT Tell" Policy

(NOTE: H, J & E all gave me specific permission - yes, I asked -  to blog about this particular topic before I put my typing fingers to laptop ;-) )

 

 Before H became a teenager, I always kind of imagined that he would be willing to talk openly with me about his dating life. I am not sure what made me imagine such a thing about a teenage boy (maybe I watched one too many episodes of "The Brady Bunch," where Greg talks girl trouble with his parents...)  but I just sort of thought that if I were a good enough mother, with a good enough relationship with my adolescent son, he would want to share these important things with me. But Greg Brady he's not; there have been no late night chats about the state of his love life over milk and cookies in our kitchen. In fact, he just turned 18 (!!!), and in the past 6 or 7 years, he's only deigned to actually introduce two girlfriends to me (or to anyone else in our family). Any attempt on my part to proactively elicit specific info on any particular girl only encouraged him to become MORE clammed up.

 

So I kind of gave up, assuming that some day, should he ever decide to - let's say -  become engaged to be married or something, he will at at least send me an invitation to the wedding. (I hope.)

 

J, on the other hand, who just started her freshman year of high schol, is more than willing to talk with me about dating and boys (and also with her Aunt Betsy, J's "other mother").  In fact, dating and related topics are actually a frequent topic of mom-daughter discussion these days. I love how open she is, and how willing to tell me what's on her mind, and what's going on in her life. I don't delude myself into thinking that she tells me everything, but we definitely have a very close relationship where we are comfortable talking about topics I would have keeled over, dead of pure embarrassment before I ever would have considered talking about with my own mom.

 

If I hadn't already mothered my way through the teenage years with one kid who would clearly endure waterboarding before telling me whether he has any romantic interest in anyone in particular, I would be patting myself on the back about now, confidently smug in the "fact"  that my obviously superlative parenting skills were the sole reason that J is so open with me about this stuff. But honestly, I haven't done anything any differently with Kid #2 than I did with Kid #1 when it comes to encouraging these sorts of conversations. So I know that this is one instance where Judith Rich may be onto something, because in this developmental area, nature clearly kicks nurture to the curb; some teenagers are obviously born with a willingness to tolerate, and even indulge their mothers' annoying curiosity about their love lives, while others are not.

 

And now along comes E, who just started 6th grade last month. E has always had a certain way with the ladies, as well as a natural confidence that I feel pretty certain will assure him no small measure of success in the teenage Dating Game. He's also much more chatty in general than his older brother, H, who is naturally quite reserved and private. So I erroniously assumed that E would be more like his sister J (and Greg Brady) when it comes to openly telling mom exactly what's up with his love life. But only 6 weeks into middle school, he has already let me know that he's still trying to decide where he will fall on the continuum of openness. 

 

As is the case in most 6th grade classes, E's class is starting to have some early-stage "dating" stuff happening within the student body. His best guy friend L, with whom he's been pals since L's mom and I were pregnant with the boys at the same time, is quite happy to tell me which 6th grade boy likes which 6th grade girl (including about himself), and he's alluded to E having some interest in certain girls, and vice versa. But when I have tried to ask E about any specifics, he shuts me down. Yet, he did allow his sister J and me to play a rather ridiculous guessing game tonight (ridiculous because there are probably fewer than 40 girls in the whole middle school)  regarding which female middle schooler he is considering asking to the upcoming 6th-7th & 8th grade dance. He seemed amused at our guesses - both silly and serious - but he wouldn't give us so much as a hint.

 

Finally I asked him teasingly whether he intends to be more like his big brother or his big sister in letting me in on what's going on with his love life.  He responded with the cryptic statement, "Mom, I have a 'you can ask and I might tell' policy." He went on to say that between his older sister, mother, Aunt Betsy and female cousins, he knows he's going to get asked a lot of questions by the women in his life, and he's trying to decide how much to share. I promised I wouldn't bug him about it, but J made no such promises. In fact, she told him that he has to tell her because as Big Sister, she needs to approve of his potential girlfriends. (I laughed, but I kind of like this idea! I think she has pretty good taste ;-)

 

So we shall see how this plays out with E over the next few years. Will nature trump nurture? Is this a boychild thing? Will his sister's declared Girlfriend Veto Power be used with any authority? Stay tuned...

 

 

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Shane said:

All three seem like the norm to me. As a former boy myself, I would say that I was definitely most like H on the spectrum. My mother was probably pretty disappointed in this, as we could have long conversations about almost any topic but this one. I cared not to discuss it. Probably a great deal of that was just simple teenage embarrassment, but there's a need for some privacy, too, I suppose.

From my own experience, I've often wondered how much of it also stemmed from my parents divorce (I was 11 going on 12). I can't say for certain I would have been more open with my dad had he been in the house (because I certainly didn't talk about it with him either when I stayed with him), but I definitely didn't feel comfortable talking about that stuff with my mom. Greg Brady was a puzzle to me.

Mom offered up her own unsolicited advice from time to time, but I would usually try to steer conversations away from the topic. She knew my girlfriends. I at least would introduce them to her, but I didn't encourage a lot of social interaction. Any of my girlfriends from middle school through college (and beyond) would tell you that I wasn't very likely to bring them around family. My wife was the first date I brought to a family reunion or holiday event-- and I was 32.

If you've established a home where conversation and questions are encouraged, they'll come to you when they need it. Otherwise, don't be surprised if E follows along somewhere in H's path. You can bet Greg Brady wouldn't have had some of those conversations with his mom if the writers hadn't created dictated it. :-)

October 9, 2009 12:45 AM
 

Lauren said:

In deciding that nature trumps nurture in this respect, you seem to have ignored society's role. It seems like clamming up is more of a boy trait, although an n of 3 isn't exactly a good sample size.

October 9, 2009 5:45 AM
 

Leslie said:

In our house, it's definitely a boy-girl thing.  I don't even have to ask Emily any questions; she's always ready to talk about this kind of thing.  The most I can get out of either boy about girls is "maybe."  They will ask questions and talk generally about related topics without any problem at all, but they will divulge no particulars.

October 9, 2009 6:56 AM
 

Heather said:

As a big sister myself, I love the idea of Girlfriend Veto Power!!!

October 9, 2009 9:25 AM
 

Julie said:

My sister has a teenage son, and she says she is not alone in her belief that boys, no matter how much they love their mothers, really just don't want to talk to them, especially about private matters.

October 9, 2009 2:43 PM
 

Clisby said:

I wouldn't be surprised if Julie's right.  Similarly, I can't imagine my 13-year-old daughter talking to her father about dating and boys.

October 10, 2009 12:39 PM
 

kgranju said:

I think y'all are right; this is a boy thing, primarily ;-)

-Katie

October 11, 2009 9:50 AM
 

Melissa said:

I'm here to break the chain!  My sisters kids are all I have to go by, since my kid is only 2.  The eldest, a boy (29), always talked to his mother a about his women issues.  He talks to us aunties sometimes too, sometimes TMI...

The middle, my 22 year old niece, is like Fort Knox.  She has graduated college now and I have NO idea whether she's ever dated anybody.  She may have talked to her mother a little bit about such things, but probably only under a strict confidentiality agreement.  I just hope I'm invited to the wedding.

The youngest, another girl, is 18 and in college.  She doesn't mind talking at all.  

So I think it's just a personality thing. Perhaps more boys clam up than girls, because girls are more verbal in general, but I think it's more based on nature.

October 15, 2009 12:20 PM

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