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Oh please please please say this is not true. She is such an idiot. Yes, I feel sorry for her as a mother, but her "advocacy" has caused illness and death. There is no link between vaccines and autism, this has been proven over and over again, but she just won't give up. It is tragic that the scientific community has to focus efforts on answering her ridiculous charges and that this takes away from any real work on autism. Is Oprah really that stupid???

Oh fer chrissakes, say it ain't so.  Jenny McCarthy is a freakin' halfwit.  She's also a dangerously misinformed goof who has done more to trumpet the causes of scientific illiteracy and absurd conspiracy theories than anyone.  Why would Oprah give her a platform for her "science by Google" views?   Josh, if you are a "jerk" for wishing she would shut up, then I will go on record as a quadruple jerk and tell her to STFU.  Any doubt she's a nut?  Go to her website and watch the video of her likening giving wheat to autistic children to handing them a joint.  The bitch is scooters.

Jenny McCarthy is NOT an anti-vaccination activist, as this states.  If you read her books or pay attention to her message you'll learn she supports vaccines, she just wants them to be safer.  Meaning more research and space them out a little.  Babies get like 30 vaccines in their first 2 years now (I'm going through them with my 16-month old) and we just don't know all the effects yet - it's scary.  She's fighting for more research so parents can vaccinate their kids without concern for harmful side effects.  Who doesn't want that?

I'm just not sure she's the person I would look to for information on a variety of topics. She's pretty and speaks well but I think the success will depend on how the show is formatted.

Why would I watch a woman famous for showing her crotch to the world?  If I want to see hookers I can go downtown.

She's a menace.  

Quinn's mom, that is not really true. She says she wants them to be safer, but there is no evidence that they are unsafe in the first place. She thinks that if she says it enough times, that people will believe her, even without any evidence.

The vaccines we have available now are amazing lifesavers and very safe as far as any medication goes. There are tens of thousands of points of data (not only from the US but from other countries as well) showing that what we have today does not cause autism. Idiots like Jenny are just causing real scientists to have to spend time proving this over and over again instead of spending resources on a real cause/treatment for autism. This is extremely tragic, and why I think letting her have her own show is extremely dangerous.

What they want is to have a study performed where half the kids think they are getting vaccines but actually are not, which is completely unethical, and could never be done. The sad part is that even if they performed such a study and showed that vaccines did not cause autism, these people would still say they did not believe it.

Also, don't forget that at first she was telling everyone she was an "Indigo Mom" and that her child was a "crystal". When this didn't give her enough attention, she moved on to this anti-vaccine BS. (No matter what anyone says, she is anti-vaccine, as no level of safety would satisfy her.)

I also find it hilarious that she accuses vaccine makers of greed, when vaccines are very low-profit compared to other drugs. However, she has profited quite nicely from her "advocacy". She was a total has-been, D-list celebrity before this, and now a show with Oprah? Amazing.

Sorry for all the posts, but when I said "What they want is to have a study performed where half the kids think they are getting vaccines but actually are not", by "they" I mean Jenny and her group, Generation Rescue. A bigger group of pseudoscientists would be hard to find.

Gpgirl, how are you so sure they ARE safe? Why does the government need VAERS? Or a special fund to help support children harmed by vaccines for the rest of their life? Where is the research to prove to me that what they want me to inject my child with is NOT going to be proven to injure then 5,10, 50 years down the road? Do you know how many kids where Permanently injured from the old poliol vaccine? How about the one for rotovirus? There is a reason they were taken off the market. How about doing real rearch before you believe everything your doctor who DOES profit off every shot by the way, tells you, our current vaccine schedule is way more dangerous than the risk of chicken pox or rotovirus. And I DO vaccinate. On MY terms, and only the vaccines that I choose. I think there are many people who have a lot to learn from Jenny, rather than believing big pharma propaganda.

This is why i love Oprah, because she is not afraid to question things.  I think our current vaccination schedule is INSANE and I have witnessed vaccine poisoning first hand.  I am glad we have such an outspoken advocate and HELL YEAH she deserves her own show. I will be watching!!!

Jryanbass, where do I start? When you talk about doing real research, what exactly are you talking about? I actually am a scientific researcher (though I have never worked on vaccines). When I was pregnant and heard about this possible vaccine-autism link, I researched it like anything else. I was amazed to find no real data to support this, and a boatload of data and studies to refute it. Not only in the US, but in the UK and Sweden also. There was one study that was done by Andrew Wakefield on 12 children, and later was found to be fraudulent, that indicated a possible link. (Actually, in the study, he states there was no link found, since the study was peer-reviewed. It was only in the subsequent media blitz that he claimed a link.)

So you think the existence of VAERS and a vaccine court is proof vaccines are unsafe? Every drug on the market has ongoing complaint handling, it is the law. The reason the government took over the vaccine court is because vaccines are so important and they wanted to keep the cost of them down and to assure that drug companies continue manufacturing vaccines. (Like I said earlier, vaccines have very low profit margins. It is much more profitable to treat something than to prevent it.) The vaccine court is set up to be very biased toward the plaintiff, in order to reward money in a fast manor. They only need to prove that there was a small possibility that a vaccine could have caused an injury. For example, everyone cites the Hannah Poling case. Hannah Poling had an underlying disorder that was triggered by a fever that may have been caused by vaccines. All they had to prove was that this trigger was caused by a fever, and that she could get a fever from vaccines (which is true). They did not even have to prove it was that fever that caused it.

The interesting thing is that VAERS and the vaccine court were set up to benefit patients, but have been used as "proof" that vaccines are dangerous.

Any drug on the market can cause side-effects. What Jenny and Generation Rescue is insisting is that vaccines cause autism, which has never been able to be shown.

I am not saying that there are no side-effects from vaccines. However, when you consider the hundreds of millions of children who have received vaccines, and the low burden of proof, you will see the number of injuries are very small.

And no no no, doctors do not profit off of vaccinations. Have you ever looked at how much they actually get paid for a vaccine? It is usually not even enough to cover the extra nurse they need to administer them. Pediatricians are not the highest paid doctors, and considering all the training they go through and debt they have after leaving medical school, it is laughable to suggest that they are pushing shots to harm children for their own profit. Jenny had made much more money off of this idea that vaccines cause autism than a doctor ever will by providing vaccines.

These are the kinds of ideas that Generation Rescue is pushing. They have no real data, so they have to push the idea that the CDC and the AAP are in conspiracy to harm children.

The funniest thing you say is "how about doing real rearch before you believe everything your doctor who DOES profit off every shot by the way, tells you". I am certainly not believing everything my doctor tells me, I can see the data for my own eyes. And you think it is better to trust a Playboy Bunny than actual doctors and scientists?

And yes, the old polio vaccine did permanently injure a small percentage, and that is why they came up with a new one! Even with those injuries the vaccines caused much more good than harm.

I could go on forever, because I have done a lot of real research and have the training to understand it. One huge problem in the US is that we have very poor science education, so this kind of nonsense (like vaccines cause autism) can be put out there and people will believe it and think they are smart in doing so.

I want to tell everyone about the organization I am starting that is out to show that the earth is flat and the sun revolves around the earth. If you don't believe me, you obviously believe everything your government tells you, and have not done as much research as I have. I dare you to prove me wrong. No data from NASA will suffice, as they are a part of big government and obviously can't be trusted. Like Oprah, I am not afraid to question things!

gpgirl -where do I start!? Wake up sister, if this is the kind of research you do then you may want to look to a different career!  How about a Play Mate, seems some of them can really take things to another level!  

GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT!!!

The American Academy of Pediatrics has received millions of dollars from the pharmaceutical industry to support everything from the building of their new headquarters to the coffee and doughnuts at their conferences.  The industry sponsors their speakers, spends millions on advertising in their official journals and pays for their lunches and dinners.

Over the years the number of vaccines and the combinations of vaccines given to babies and children have increased immensely.  Adequate testing has not been done.  There has been a huge rise in the number of children with autism. Do the math!

Let's not forget it took fifty years or more, thousands of court cases and a lot of money to finally prove the connection between cigarettes and cancer.

Actually, there was actual scientific evidence in the 30's that cigarettes caused cancer. This link showed up when they started testing for this. At the time marketers were able to go against scientific evidence. Today, after so many large trials, there is still no evidence that vaccines cause autism.

Also, again, vaccines are not high-profit items. Drug makers actually wanted to get out of the vaccine business, but the government forced them to stay in. If you want to say Big Pharma is evil, this is an example, that they wanted to stop making something that was beneficial that was not profitable enough.

Also, I was talking about individual pediatricians. Medical school is very competitive, so you would imagine these same people could have gone to business school, where they would have made more right after graduation (after only 2 extra years of school) than they make in their whole careers (after 4 extra years of school and residencey/internship, where they work like hell and make next to nothing.) If these were greedy people, they sure picked the wrong profession.

Yes, do the math. Look at how much the criteria for autism has changed. It changed in 1980, 1987, and 1994. Each time it got much less stringent. Before 1980, there were no criteria for autism, so doctors almost never diagnose someone as such. They would be diagnosed with speech impediment, CP, etc. Also, kids get screened much more than they did before. There is no way of knowing if this accounts of the entire increase or not, but it sure plays an enormous part.

One more thing, you mention the rise in autism and the rise in number of vaccines given. This is correlation, not causation. It would be a reason for perform a study, but not proof that one thing caused another. That is basic science.

gpgirl, you rock!  Thank you for fighting the good fight!